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Old 09-11-2011, 06:55 PM   #31
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Let us NOT get distracted.

The epistle of "James" show no direct QUOTATION of Jesus and has ZERO about the supposed life of Jesus on earth.
Against my better judgment, why do you think the writer of James didn't attribute the similar teachings to the gospel Jesus?
You ASKED what is called a "LEADING QUESTION". The author of the epistle of James quoted Hebrew Scripture and the epistle is similar to Hebrew Scripture.

I really don't want to SPECULATE. I NEED SOURCES of antiquity not imagination.

In the Synoptics, Jesus TAUGHT his disciples that he would be killed and RISE on the THIRD day. I don't see anything similar in the epistle of James.

I deal with SOURCES of antiquity and what is found in them.

The author of the epistle under the name of James shows ZERO personal interaction with the character called Jesus Christ in James 1.1.

Justin Martyr a 2nd century apologetic writer mentioned ZERO about a Jerusalem Church with a bishop known as the apostle James or James the Just and that he wrote an epistle.

Another assumed LATE 2nd century writer called Irenaeus mentioned FOUR Gospels, Acts of the Apostles, the Pauline Epistles with the epistles to Timothy and did NOT mention that there was a character call James who wrote an epistle.

The identity of the author called James cannot be corroborated. James is called a SERVANT of the Lord Jesus Christ.

The problems with the epistle of James are numerous and was NOT accounted for by Irenaeus up to the LATE 2nd century.

Since you want me to speculate, Do you know if the author of the epistle James personally knew EUSEBIUS in the 4th century?
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Old 09-11-2011, 08:11 PM   #32
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Let us NOT get distracted.

The epistle of "James" show no direct QUOTATION of Jesus and has ZERO about the supposed life of Jesus on earth.
Against my better judgment, why do you think the writer of James didn't attribute the similar teachings to the gospel Jesus?
You ASKED what is called a "LEADING QUESTION". The author of the epistle of James quoted Hebrew Scripture and the epistle is similar to Hebrew Scripture.

I really don't want to SPECULATE.
ok. It is better we keep it at that. Thanks, Ted
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Old 09-12-2011, 04:40 AM   #33
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Let the smart heads around here decide whether, when you say about the writer: 'why in world [sic] whould he need to identify himself as Jesus' brother', you imply specifically that he did identify himself as such.
I agree with TedM; he didn't claim that. The context is on the last page:

Solo: Note the address of this pseudo-James in 1:1 belies any tradition existing at that point that he was the brother of Jesus.

(I.e. No claim in James that he was the brother of Jesus)

TedM: Who is this James that it is written by and why in world would he need to identify himself as Jesus' brother if he was their leader whom they already were familiar with?

(I.e. Why would the author need to identify James as Jesus' brother? IOW, he didn't need to (since they were already familiar with him), so he didn't identify James as Jesus' brother)
Got it. I did not see him linking the statement back to mine.

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