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ksen · 07-11-2007, 12:46 PM

Babylonian King's Eunuch Really Existed!

by Hillel Fendel

(IsraelNN.com) A routine research visit to the British Museum nets a landmark archaeological discovery and proof of the Old Testament's truth.

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Upon reading the tablet, which records a donation of gold by "the chief eunuch of King Nebuchadnezzar," a man named Nabu-sharrussu-ukin, Jursa suddenly realized that the name sounded familiar. He quickly consulted Jeremiah 39, where he found the man's name listed as one of Nebuchadnezzar's top ministers who took part in the destruction of the First Holy Temple 2,500 years ago. The Biblical account, however, has his named spelled slightly differently: (Samgar) Nevo Sarsekim.

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Link --> http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/123041

For your consideration.

shirley knott · 07-11-2007, 01:00 PM

This just in, geographical investigators confirm that Atlanta, known to many as a city mentioned in Gone With The Wind, actually exists in the state of Georgia, USA.

What on earth are we supposed to make of this kind of confirmation???

hugs,
Shirley Knott

Toto · 07-11-2007, 02:39 PM

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On hearing of the discovery, Geza Vermes, the eminent emeritus professor of Jewish studies at the University of Oxford, said it shows that “the Biblical story is not altogether invented."

Here's another link: Daily Telegraph

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He had made what has been called the most important find in Biblical archaeology for 100 years, a discovery that supports the view that the historical books of the Old Testament are based on fact.

This is a little bit more supportable than seeing the confirmation of a minor official as supporting the historical value of the entire Hebrew Scriptures or the Torah. Most people have assumed that the historical books have some relationship to actual history (as opposed to the fanciful early history in Genesis. . . )

premjan · 07-11-2007, 11:32 PM

Nebuchadnezzar II (apparently this is not in reference to Nebuchadnezzar I) was only in about 600 BC so it should not be controversial.

Headache · 07-12-2007, 01:32 PM

Not sure if this is the correct forum, so move if necessary.

I came across this bit of news and wanted to get some opinions on it...

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Originally Posted by Old Testament figure named on 2600-year-old tablet

THE British Museum yesterday hailed a discovery within a clay tablet in its collection as a breakthrough for biblical archeology - proof of the accuracy of the Old Testament.

The cuneiform inscription in a tablet dating from 595BC has been deciphered for the first time - revealing a reference to an official at the court of Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon, that proves the historical existence of a figure mentioned in the Book of Jeremiah.

It is rare evidence in a non-biblical source of a real person, other than kings, featured in the Bible.

The tablet names a Babylonian officer called Nebo-Sarsekim who, according to Jeremiah 39 was present in 587BC when Nebuchadnezzar "marched against Jerusalem with his whole army and laid siege to it".
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Toto · 07-12-2007, 01:44 PM

We already have a thread on this. I will merge

Gamera · 07-12-2007, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Toto

Quote:

On hearing of the discovery, Geza Vermes, the eminent emeritus professor of Jewish studies at the University of Oxford, said it shows that “the Biblical story is not altogether invented."

Here's another link: Daily Telegraph

Quote:

He had made what has been called the most important find in Biblical archaeology for 100 years, a discovery that supports the view that the historical books of the Old Testament are based on fact.

This is a little bit more supportable than seeing the confirmation of a minor official as supporting the historical value of the entire Hebrew Scriptures or the Torah. Most people have assumed that the historical books have some relationship to actual history (as opposed to the fanciful early history in Genesis. . . )

Query whether this supports the historical intent of the Synoptics, which seem patterned more on the historical books of the Hebrew Scriptures than the symbolic/metaphoric books like Genesis.

Headache · 07-12-2007, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Toto

We already have a thread on this. I will merge

Thank you and I apologize!

I looked for a similar thread, but I must have missed it, bad eyes I guess...

Toto · 07-12-2007, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Gamera

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Query whether this supports the historical intent of the Synoptics, which seem patterned more on the historical books of the Hebrew Scriptures than the symbolic/metaphoric books like Genesis.

Could you explain this? How are the Synoptics patterned on the historical books of the HS - at least outside of the geneologies?

Are you ignoring the patterning of Jesus on Joshua, the many references to the Exodus, Elijah, etc?

Chris Weimer · 07-27-2007, 01:40 AM

What do you guys make of this find?

Time and Telegraph

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The sound of unbridled joy seldom breaks the quiet of the British Museum's great Arched Room, which holds its collection of 130,000 Assyrian cuneiform tablets, dating back 5,000 years.

But Michael Jursa, a visiting professor from Vienna, let out such a cry last Thursday. He had made what has been called the most important find in Biblical archaeology for 100 years, a discovery that supports the view that the historical books of the Old Testament are based on fact.

Searching for Babylonian financial accounts among the tablets, Prof Jursa suddenly came across a name he half remembered - Nabu-sharrussu-ukin, described there in a hand 2,500 years old, as "the chief eunuch" of Nebuchadnezzar II, king of Babylon.

Prof Jursa, an Assyriologist, checked the Old Testament and there in chapter 39 of the Book of Jeremiah, he found, spelled differently, the same name - Nebo-Sarsekim.

07-11-2007, 12:46 PM	#1
ksen Contributor Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 15,946	Evidence for existence of Nabu-sharrussu-ukin / Nebo-Sarsekim [MERGED 3X] Babylonian King's Eunuch Really Existed! by Hillel Fendel (IsraelNN.com) A routine research visit to the British Museum nets a landmark archaeological discovery and proof of the Old Testament's truth. . . . Upon reading the tablet, which records a donation of gold by "the chief eunuch of King Nebuchadnezzar," a man named Nabu-sharrussu-ukin, Jursa suddenly realized that the name sounded familiar. He quickly consulted Jeremiah 39, where he found the man's name listed as one of Nebuchadnezzar's top ministers who took part in the destruction of the First Holy Temple 2,500 years ago. The Biblical account, however, has his named spelled slightly differently: (Samgar) Nevo Sarsekim. . . . >snip< =============================== Link --> http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/123041 For your consideration.

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shirley knott Regular Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 416	This just in, geographical investigators confirm that Atlanta, known to many as a city mentioned in Gone With The Wind, actually exists in the state of Georgia, USA. What on earth are we supposed to make of this kind of confirmation??? hugs, Shirley Knott

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premjan Obsessed Contributor Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 61,538	Nebuchadnezzar II (apparently this is not in reference to Nebuchadnezzar I) was only in about 600 BC so it should not be controversial.

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Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	We already have a thread on this. I will merge

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