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Old 01-30-2008, 01:35 PM   #691
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Sorry, many sources indicate that Tyre is ONE CITY even though a part of it is on a island.
Your source does not say that.

Moreover, the question is not "What is Tyre TODAY"? The question is "What was Tyre in the 6th century BCE". Finding quotes that describe the current situation -- after Tyre has grown to 100,000 people and expanded all over the isthmus -- doesn't prove jack squat about how things were at Nebuchadnezzar's time.

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This source states Nebby attacked TYRE for 13 years.
http://www.destinationlebanon.gov.lb/eng/Tyre.asp
Yep. He sieged the island for 13 years, but failed to take it. We already told you that. :rolling:
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Sorry, many sources indicate that Tyre is ONE CITY even though a part of it is on a island. This source states Nebby attacked TYRE for 13 years.
http://www.destinationlebanon.gov.lb/eng/Tyre.asp
I asked you for ancient sources.

And did you actually read this web page?
Sour's (Tyre's) list of former rulers and conquerors reads likes a Who's-Who from Antiquity. From King Hiram (980 B.C.), who supplied Lebanese cedars to King Solomon for the building of Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem; to the Phoenician Princess Elissa (also known as Dido), who left Sour (Tyre) to found the famous city of Carthage (814 B.C.); to the Babylonian King Nebuchadnezzar, who laid siege to the city for 13 years (500 B.C.); to Alexander the Great, who conquered Sour (Tyre) by building a causeway to connect the island city to the mainland (332 B.C.) – these are only the B.C. period highlights.
The current site was once two Phoenician island cities that were joined together by King Hiram in the 10th century B.C.

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Old 01-30-2008, 01:37 PM   #693
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And this historical record that Tyre were actual sister cities in reference to Alexander the Great.

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Confident in the fortifications of their island city, the Tyrians object. They realize the danger is great should Alexander enter their city. So they send envoys to Alexander telling him that there is a temple of Heracles on the mainland at Palaetyrus (old Tyre), suggesting that he offer sacrifices to the god there.
http://www.cartage.org.lb/en/themes/...alexgreat.html
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As usual. Your source doesn't back up your claim, and in fact, refutes it.

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...to the Babylonian King Nebuchadnezzar, who laid siege to the city for 13 years (500 B.C.); to Alexander the Great, who conquered Sour (Tyre) by building a causeway to connect the island city to the mainland (332 B.C.) – these are only the B.C. period highlights.
Did you read the source before you posted it? Yes, that page talks about there being one Tyre NOW, as a result of the land bridge. But in Nebbys time only the island was considered Tyre.
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And this historical record that Tyre were actual sister cities in reference to Alexander the Great.

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Confident in the fortifications of their island city, the Tyrians object. They realize the danger is great should Alexander enter their city. So they send envoys to Alexander telling him that there is a temple of Heracles on the mainland at Palaetyrus (old Tyre), suggesting that he offer sacrifices to the god there.
http://www.cartage.org.lb/en/themes/...alexgreat.html
Yup, they didn't let him into Tyre. They sent him to Ushu. There's nothing that hasn't been explained to you a number of times already.

Oh, about sending him to the temple of Heracles on the mainland, what's the ancient source?


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And this historical record that Tyre were actual sister cities in reference to Alexander the Great.

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Confident in the fortifications of their island city, the Tyrians object. They realize the danger is great should Alexander enter their city. So they send envoys to Alexander telling him that there is a temple of Heracles on the mainland at Palaetyrus (old Tyre), suggesting that he offer sacrifices to the god there.
http://www.cartage.org.lb/en/themes/...alexgreat.html
Except it says nothing about a city on the mainland. Only that there was a temple there.

It DOES say that there is a city on the ISLAND, though. :rolling:

Also note that "Old Tyre" was a Greek misnomer.

Your move. :rolling:
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Sorry, many sources indicate that Tyre is ONE CITY even though a part of it is on a island. This source states Nebby attacked TYRE for 13 years.
http://www.destinationlebanon.gov.lb/eng/Tyre.asp
Everyone on here also said that Nebuchadrezzar attacked TYRE for 13 years; only you and s'hitman continue to claim that he was actually attacking Ushu. Also note what your source has to say about the City Site: "The current site was once two Phoenician island cities that were joined together by King Hiram in the 10th century B.C." Next lame excuse?
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Message to arnoldo: Couldn't God have inspired Ezekiel to write the Tyre prophecy in ways that no one would have disputed?

No reasonable motives = no God of the Bible.
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Sorry, many sources indicate that Tyre is ONE CITY even though a part of it is on a island. This source states Nebby attacked TYRE for 13 years.
http://www.destinationlebanon.gov.lb/eng/Tyre.asp
That same source repeatedly refers to ancient Tyre as an island city. For example:

"...to Alexander the Great, who conquered Sour (Tyre) by building a causeway to connect the island city to the mainland (332 B.C.)."

Your willful ignorance in this matter is simply appalling.

This thread is done whether regardless of whether you are willing to admit defeat or not.
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