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Old 05-18-2008, 07:15 PM   #41
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Read Rev 13 ... the antichrist is given power over all the religion of the world to cause all men to worship the false image of a christ figure [already with us in modern religion] ...
Revelations 13 specifically identifies the antichrist by the numeral 666. At the time the Book of Revelations was written, everybody and their uncle would have recognized that term and would have known what it stood for. The numeral is specific to the "magic squares" that were passed down to humanity by the ancient pagan gods. Magic squares were regularly carved on amulets and talismens and were thought to either ward off evil or bring one luck. As amulets, Magic squares were used by the poorest peasant as well as the wealthiest kings throughout the Middle East.

In essence, magic squares are blocks of numbers which produce the same sum whether they are added in horizontal rows, columns or diagonals. There were seven primary magic squares, one each for Mars, Venus, Mercury, Saturn, Jupiter and the sun and the moon.

The numbers that made up the magic square of the sun added up to the sum 666. It was a reference to "the sun god", the "solar deity complex" and specifically the Solar dynasties of the Anunnaki god system.

Most theologians accept that the Church of Rome which is basically the Church of Sol Invictus, became the symbolic antichrist which "caused all men to worship the false image of a christ figure." Theoretically, an antichrist is one who usurps the power of Christ.

Today the Catholic Pope still maintains that he is the divine authority of God on earth and he claims the right to "forgive sin." Basically, the Church of Rome remains an institution that not only presents a false image of Christ, that specific Church attempted to usurp the power of Christ.

666 means "the sun god." It's meant the sun god from day one. It's even in the Kabala. Just Google "666, Magic Squares." There was plenty of info on it the last time I checked. I first got turned on to it's meaning back in 1971 by reading the books written by the English author, John Michell. He tries to make out like 666 is a good number, but I think that is a questionable idea.

Never-the-less, the Masons who were responsible for designing most of the so called Chrstian Cathedrals throughout most of Europe dedicated all those buildings by the use of Magic Squares. They regularly built churches that were supposedly Christian and dedicated the geometry of those churches by redundantly using the geometry of 666 or some other magic square in their floor plans. Each of the seven primary Magic Squares stands for one of the seven major Pagan gods.

Dedicating a church or cathedral by magic squares was essentially the very ancient tradition of the practice of pagan magic. It's all very strange stuff...and spooky to say the least!

The belief was that by dedicating a building according to the geometry of a specific magic square, you were "calling down the spirit of the pagan god" that magic square stood for.
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Why do Christians ignore what the Buddha said? Where are Christians on the Eightfold path? Is it because they don't believe the Buddha really attained enlightenment? But there are all those writings that said he did.

See, the same thing can be said about Christians. Why do you ignore what the Buddha said.

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... almost all 'Christians' ignore what Jesus said, never mind about ignoring what Buddha said ! :huh:
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Read Rev 13 ... the antichrist is given power over all the religion of the world to cause all men to worship the false image of a christ figure [already with us in modern religion] ...
Revelations 13 specifically identifies the antichrist by the numeral 666. At the time the Book of Revelations was written, everybody and their uncle would have recognized that term and would have known what it stood for. The numeral is specific to the "magic squares" that were passed down to humanity by the ancient pagan gods. Magic squares were regularly carved on amulets and talismens and were thought to either ward off evil or bring one luck. As amulets, Magic squares were used by the poorest peasant as well as the wealthiest kings throughout the Middle East.

In essence, magic squares are blocks of numbers which produce the same sum whether they are added in horizontal rows, columns or diagonals. There were seven primary magic squares, one each for Mars, Venus, Mercury, Saturn, Jupiter and the sun and the moon.

The numbers that made up the magic square of the sun added up to the sum 666. It was a reference to "the sun god", the "solar deity complex" and specifically the Solar dynasties of the Anunnaki god system.

Most theologians accept that the Church of Rome which is basically the Church of Sol Invictus, became the symbolic antichrist which "caused all men to worship the false image of a christ figure." Theoretically, an antichrist is one who usurps the power of Christ.

Today the Catholic Pope still maintains that he is the divine authority of God on earth and he claims the right to "forgive sin." Basically, the Church of Rome remains an institution that not only presents a false image of Christ, that specific Church attempted to usurp the power of Christ.

666 means "the sun god." It's meant the sun god from day one. It's even in the Kabala. Just Google "666, Magic Squares." There was plenty of info on it the last time I checked. I first got turned on to it's meaning back in 1971 by reading the books written by the English author, John Michell. He tries to make out like 666 is a good number, but I think that is a questionable idea.

Never-the-less, the Masons who were responsible for designing most of the so called Chrstian Cathedrals throughout most of Europe dedicated all those buildings by the use of Magic Squares. They regularly built churches that were supposedly Christian and dedicated the geometry of those churches by redundantly using the geometry of 666 or some other magic square in their floor plans. Each of the seven primary Magic Squares stands for one of the seven major Pagan gods.

Dedicating a church or cathedral by magic squares was essentially the very ancient tradition of the practice of pagan magic. It's all very strange stuff...and spooky to say the least!

The belief was that by dedicating a building according to the geometry of a specific magic square, you were "calling down the spirit of the pagan god" that magic square stood for.


Sum of he title 'Vicarius Filii Dei' = 666 in Latin and its meaning is literally 'in place of the son of God' which is what 'antichristos' means in Greek :-

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The Catholic Encyclopedia New Advent, states that "many of the recent critical students of the document, (Donation of Constantine), locate its composition at Rome and attribute the forgery to an ecclesiastic, their chief argument being an intrinsic one: this false document was composed in favour of the popes and of the Roman Church, therefore Rome itself must have had the chief interest in a forgery executed for a purpose so clearly expressed" [6].
During the Middle Ages, the Donation of Constantine was widely accepted as genuine for about 800 years [6] and was used by medieval Popes to bolster territorial and secular claims to power. The document was acknowledged by the church as fraudulent about the time Andreas Helwig published Antichristus Romanus (1612) which identifies Vicarius Dei Filli with the number of the beast. However, some Catholic publications continued to refer to the title until well into the 19th century [7].
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Please color me stupid,but who witnessed what this guy said?
Who did Paul talk to?
John?
We just do not know.
Have faith,brother.


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ETA:How many pinheads can dance on the head of an angel?circa 1542
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ETA:How many pinheads can dance on the head of an angel?circa 1542
The answer is either 616 or 1611. Depends on whether it is an African angel...
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why yes an african angel would makje a diffrence wouldn't it? Mass carrrying load differs in the african angel over is cousin the european angel.
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why yes an african angel would makje a diffrence wouldn't it? Mass carrrying load differs in the african angel over is cousin the european angel.

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Why does Jesus say explicitly that he was sent by God ONLY to the House of Israel and why does every religion in the world ignore this specific statement made by Jesus ? :-

Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the House of Israel.

Zechariah 8:13 And it shall come to pass, that as ye were a curse among the heathen, O House of Judah, and House of Israel; so will I save you, and ye shall be a blessing: fear not, but let your hands be strong.

Matthew 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.


Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Hebrews 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

Hebrews 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
The House of Israel is the name of God's people. According to the story logic, Israel was YHWH's "base" (like a candidate has a certain population that's his "base"), then he (God) would bring everyone to him (God), "And I will bless them that bless thee, and him that curseth thee will I curse; and in thee shall all the families of the earth be blessed.' (Genesis 12:3)". It is true he came to the "House of Israel", but then again he issued his so-called "great commission": "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."
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Why does Jesus say explicitly that he was sent by God ONLY to the House of Israel and why does every religion in the world ignore this specific statement made by Jesus ? :-

Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the House of Israel.

Zechariah 8:13 And it shall come to pass, that as ye were a curse among the heathen, O House of Judah, and House of Israel; so will I save you, and ye shall be a blessing: fear not, but let your hands be strong.

Matthew 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.


Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Hebrews 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

Hebrews 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
The House of Israel is the name of God's people. According to the story logic, Israel was YHWH's "base" (like a candidate has a certain population that's his "base"), then he (God) would bring everyone to him (God), "And I will bless them that bless thee, and him that curseth thee will I curse; and in thee shall all the families of the earth be blessed.' (Genesis 12:3)".
God went further than that, He said that He would make them a nation of priests in His kingdom come , and one needs the priests ready to minister at the beginning of redemption of the gentiles, so Israel are the first...

Exodus 19:6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

Revelation 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

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It is true he came to the "House of Israel", but then again he issued his so-called "great commission": "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."
Again, the House of Israel was scattered amongst all the nations long before Jesus came , the 'great commission' is only to first find the House of Israel, he said so :-

Matthew 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

and in Rev 7:3-8 Jesus lists the 144,000 firstfruit saints by tribe of Israel, proving the point .

The many of all nations do NOT find the narrow way in this life, only FEW do this, the 144,000 ... the many go by the broad way to Jesus through destruction in death [and the end of this world]

The many die sinners, so cannot take part in the first resurrection [at Jesus' return] , no one who is sinner still by his death can be resurrected until the resurrection of the unjust in the new earth [after the millenium]
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