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Osbert · 06-16-2007, 07:11 AM

I quote from this site:

http://jdstone.org/truth/files/j_myth.html

The article is longish, I am no expert and I would be grateful to read some other opinion.

Quote:

The Hebrew name for Christians has always been Notzrim. This name is derived from the Hebrew word neitzer, which means a shoot or sprout--an obvious Messianic symbol. There were already people called Notzrim at the time of Rabbi Yehoshua ben Perachyah (c. 100 B.C.E.). Although modern Christians claim that Christianity only started in the first century C.E., it is clear that the first century Christians in Israel considered themselves to be a continuation of the Notzri movement which had been in existence for about 150 years. One of the most notorious Notzrim was Yeishu ben Pandeira, also known as Yeishu ha-Notzri. Talmudic scholars have always maintained that the story of Jesus began with Yeishu. The Hebrew name for Jesus has always been Yeishu and the Hebrew for "Jesus the Nazarene" has always been "Yeishu ha-Notzri." (The name Yeishu is a shortened form of the name Yeishua, not Yehoshua.) It is important to note that Yeishu ha-Notzri is not an historical Jesus since modern Christianity denies any connection between Jesus and Yeishu and moreover, parts of the Jesus myth are based on other historical people besides Yeishu.

Has anybody heard of this before?

andrewcriddle · 06-16-2007, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Osbert

I quote from this site:

http://jdstone.org/truth/files/j_myth.html

The article is longish, I am no expert and I would be grateful to read some other opinion.

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Has anybody heard of this before?

Its based on material in the Babylonian Talmud (5th/6th century CE) which can't be found in this form in earlier Jewish sources such as the Jerusalem Talmud (4th century CE).

Andrew Criddle

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