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Old 02-17-2004, 10:29 AM   #11
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Old 02-17-2004, 10:45 AM   #12
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What are you really upset about? Could it be the statements of Jesus Christ? Could that be why such ongoing effort goes into the maintenance of this web site? Budda? Mohammed? - just another religion. Jesus is a different matter entirely.
People on this board focus so much on Christianity because most of them live in areas where Christianity is the dominant religion. Whenever some zealot starts flinging religion in their faces, 99 times out of 100 said zealot is a Christian. If there were more Middle Easterners or Far Easterners here maybe things would be different.
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Ric---

As you probably have already noticed---you are in a heap of doo doo here. You will find that there will be 10 atheists attacking your position and you are all by your lonesome. What did you expect anyway? This is an atheist forum.

Suggestion------keep to one topic that you can argue fairly well. Do not spread yourself too thin. And try not to feel overwhelmed. You are you know.
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Yehar...we got another taker in the great trail of would-be-proselytizers coming to convert us foul heathen dogs.

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Rally the troups to offer or acquire some new "evidence" against the Bible!
I'd prefer to see you provide me some evidence that it isn't a complete toilet-choking load of crap. You're the one making the assertive claim...all we want is some proof, which is sorely lacking.
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Would someone please be honest...
Ok, we'll be honest while you sit in a dark room with your ears plugged and repeating 'la la la' as loud as you can.
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All this talk - thousands of threads, quotes, replys...
It's called rational discourse. Get used to it.
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Rally the troups to offer or acquire some new "evidence" against the Bible!
Give us some evidence that the Bible is correct. You make the claim, you provide the proof.
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Hey... Lets be real. Jesus Christ lived just as surely as Alexander the Great.
Which is why no one bothered to write about him outside the Gospels. Uh-huh, suuure.
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People have tried to destroy the Bible for 2000 years and have failed.
Five hundred years ago I could be put to death for doubting a word of the Bible. Until recently trying to honestly investigate its claims was simply a longer way to commit suicide.
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Come on... What are you really upset about?
{Insult deleted} you trying to tell me what I believe and/or parroting catchphrases at me without doing any research on your own.
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Could it be the statements of Jesus Christ?
You mean like the ones where he says that people who don't believe his nonsense will go straight to Hell? Or the ones where he shows no understanding of physics?
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Could that be why such ongoing effort goes into the maintenance of this web site? Budda? Mohammed? - just another religion. Jesus is a different matter entirely.
Two words: Prove it.
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Come on... What are you really upset about?

You tell me. After all, you're the one guessing at the viewpoints of others.

Could it be the statements of Jesus Christ?

No, it's the lyrics of Jesus Jones.

Could that be why such ongoing effort goes into the maintenance of this web site?

Yes, we get a cookie each time baby Jesus cries.

Will someone please admit that the passage below is really what all the fuss is about?

I wouldn't know, since the fuss seems to exist in your mind only. And if you're so sure of yourself, why do you need us to admit anything?

Would someone please confess that what you really want; is to do whatever you want, to whomever you want

Is this a coy way of saying that unbelievers want to rob, fuck and kill people?

In any case, this is one of the most egregious cases of projection I've ever seen, and I read tencommandments.org. And why should the imaginary people whom you're addressing confess anything to you, if they're as depraved and amoral as you think they are?
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Rational BAC I could have tagged my Post Deliberate Impostures (Contradiction in Terms) here, but having spoken to a non BA Christian today, I have been trying to fathom out exactly why I am an atheist, hence the new thread. Not an attempt to chatter incessantly in our own Babel.

Let's say for argument's sake I accept the existence of God, I would just interpret God in a non fundamentalist manner. I would prefer to pinch Plato's concept of 'Ideal Forms' and say that God actually means perfection. So lets all agree to come at this through one thread only. I shall remain silent until we can get some consensus on that apart from Amos and my thread DI's.
Apologies if you think I attack rational Christians, I cannot.
But those who are literalists will need to know Hobbes, Spinoza et al in order to do so effectively. Don't forget he knows me as much as he knows you, irrespective of our beliefs/thinking.
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Rally the troups to offer or acquire some new "evidence" against the Bible! Hey... Lets be real. Jesus Christ lived just as surely as Alexander the Great. People have tried to destroy the Bible for 2000 years and have failed.

Jesus Christ probably was a real person. Though many legends have sprung up about him, I would guess that there probably is some historical basis. But just as surely as Alexander the great? Come on.

But even if Jesus did exist, what does it prove? Mohammed is also known to have existed. Do you then believe that Islam is the correct religion?

The Temple ruins are a fact.
So what's your point? The ruins of the Parthenon in Greece have also been discovered. That doesn't mean that that Greek gods exist.


Will someone please admit that the passage below is really what all the fuss is about? Would someone please confess that what you really want; is to do whatever you want, to whomever you want, whenever you want - and be free of all accountability.
Oh please. Thats like a non-Christian just accusing Christians in general of following their religion because they can sin as much as they want and then just ask Mr. Sky daddy for forgiveness.

But besides, atheism is not a philosophy, worldview, religion, or a system of morals. It is simply a disbelief in a god(s) existence. In theory, atheism has nothing to say about morality or ethics. Yes some atheists are immoral, but the same is true of theists.
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