Steven Carr

the first name is Muhammad's first wive. He married the other Twelve after her death.

1. Khadijah bint Khuwaylid

2. Sawda bint Zama

3. Aisha bint Abi Bakr

4. Hafsa bint Umar

5. Zaynab bint Khuzayma

6. Hind bint Abi Umayya

7. Zaynab bint Jahsh

8. Juwayriya bint al-Harith

9. Ramlah bint Abi Sufyan

10. Rayhana bint Zayd

11. Safiyya bint Huyayy

12. Maymuna bint al-Harith

13. Maria al-Qibtiyya

I wonder why these names are consistent in Muslim tradition, while the lists of the Twelve in the Gospels vary.

I thought oral tradition was superb in early Christian circles.

And weren't these Twelve allegedly very important to Christians , being the Twelve hand-picked disciples, chosen by Christ himself.

And yet their names vary, in stark contrast to the names of Muhammad's wives.

How can that be if these Twelve disciples were so important and the Gospels accurately record important things?

If the Gospels can't even get the names of the disciples right, how could they record the alleged teachings of these Twelve as they passed on the message of Jesus?

mountainman

Obviously the twelve were fabricated as being in a partial agreement
in explicit concordance to the "Eusebian Canon Tables" which Eusebius
tells us was prepared by Ammonias.

Is this Ammonias Saccas the Plotinist or Ammonias Saccas the "christian"?

Perhaps it was important to pervert the names of the twelve disciples of that great Greek sage and philosopher Plotinus, favored by earlier emperors, for his great works on the Logos and the Holy Trinity.

1 Porphyry
2 Amelius
3 Castricius Firmus
4 Eustochius of Alexandria
5 Marcellus Orontius and
6 Sabinillus
7 Paulinus
8 Rogatianus
9 Serapion
10 Zethos
11 Zoticus
12 Olympias (detractor)

Eusebius and Constantine obviously found the books of Plotinus which had been prepared by Porphyry, in his "Life of Plotinus", in the libraries of Rome, where Porphyry last wrote.

Muhammad was obviously impressed with the story of Ardashir (c.224 CE) and Constantine (c.324 CE) creating their own strong monotheistic religion by means of their military supremacy over any and all opposition. The key feature of three new religions was the centralised authority of a "canonised" writing of some form -- sometimes referred to as a "Holy Writ".

The Boss backs a book!
The book becomes canonised.
The Boss rules by the book.

Its a simple formula.
Its been used lots.
Its called a military revolution.
The books are not literally "divinely inspired".
The books are literally a means to an end.
Collages of War lord inspired bullshit.
Lifted from the Common Wisdom of the epochs.
Without attribution.

A further common trait between Constantine and Muhammad
is that they both ordered for the execution of satirists who
were probably opposed to the revolution.