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I have never run across a Jew with the name “prophet” in all my readings. Sounds to me like a mistake or a title.
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Paraclete would be menachem
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The possible solution is that THE prophet (Deut 18:18 etc) is the messiah who to be called the Paraclete (cf. Lam 1:16; Sanhedrin 98b etc) |
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The general question here is how do members of this discussion forum prefer to describe the entire literary phenomenom of the new testament apocrypha. I have simply provided a range of academic opinion on this general question. This newly emergent translation of bits of the "Acts of Mark" is being added to a list of over 30 already known Gnostic Acts, and over 20 lready known Gnostic Gospels, and other Letters, Apocalypses, Revelations, etc. How do readers therefore wish to describe this growing collection of the non-canonical books of the vile Gnostic heretics? I see this as a very important question to be answered, while others may disagree. |
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As elucidated above, the vile and heretical gnostic authors simply took a bit out of this canonical source, and a bit out of that canonical source, and a bit more out of their earluer authored non-canonical sources, and then invented some truly detailed novel wondrous and incredibly romantic narratives. The Acts of Titus makes an interesting read. Why would a group of people in antiquity undertake such an enterprise? What was their motivation? Who were they? When did they write? Are these questions sitting in the "Too Hard" basket? One thing (IMO) we can be sure about is that the appearance of the Acts of Mark, the Acts of Barnabas and the Acts of Titus, and a great truckload of other gnostic Acts (and many Gnostic gospels), is a post-Nicaean phenomenom. A great deal of these totally outrageously impossible stories were therefore probably authored this side of the Nicaean Boundary Event. |
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Mountainman, how would events in the 4th century have stimulated production of these texts specifically at a time when the authorities were intent on stamping out all ideas that didn't correspond to "Nicene Christianity"??
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Neither the Acts of Mark nor any of the texts described are properly defined as gnostic. But then again what does Pete care? The facts get in the way of his theory.
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The point still remains as to how and why sects were managing to create texts when authorities were ostensibly stamping out heretics of whatever type.
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(1) In the beginning Constantine published a very contraversial codex (the proto-canonical Bible). (2) Afterwards there was a very contraversial "literary reaction" to it. (the proto non-canonical bible) Does this make sense? |
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