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Arizonaepu · 06-10-2012, 10:41 PM

Can I get some help -- sources to refute this WND article:

http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/chariots-...able-evidence/

Diogenes the Cynic · 06-10-2012, 10:56 PM

This sentence tells you pretty much everything you need to know:

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“I am 99.9 percent sure I picked up a chariot wheel,” said Peter Elmer, a forklift mechanic from Keynsham, England

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There's really nothing here to refute, "enthusiasts" took pictures of natural coral formations and are fantasizing that they're "Egyptian Chariot Wheels."

The evidence is nothing more than those photographs, there is nothing approaching scientific analysis here. No dating or identification, not even any provenance for the photographs just dipshits pointing and making stuff up.

Ron Wyatt was a notorious con artist who not only claimed to have found "chariot wheels," but also Noah's Ark, the tower of Babel and said he had the Ark of the Covenant in his basement.

You don't have to debunk anything here, since you have no burden. All they're doing is making bald claims with no support.

Even if these were chariot wheels, it would still not demonstrate anything about the Biblical Exodus story. Make them start by proving the Israelites were ever enslaved in Egypt.

spin · 06-10-2012, 11:02 PM

Try googling "Ron Wyatt chariots fraud"

aeebee50 · 06-11-2012, 05:01 AM

No fraud found at this time. Sounds like a sales pitch for the video and books, etc.

semiopen · 06-11-2012, 05:46 AM

Academic confirmation of Red Sea Crossing

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Dr Lennart Moller of the Karolinska Institute, Stockholm, Sweden. has written a highly academic book,..

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An eight spoke chariot wheel, discovered under the sea in the Gulf of Aquaba, was examined by the director of Egyptian Antiquities, Dr. Nassif Mohammed Hassan. Dr Hassan confirmed the wheel to be of the eighteenth dynasty, dating the Exodus to 1,446 BC, and that the eight spoke wheel was only used during the period of time of Ramases II and Tutmoses (Moses).

I seriously doubt that Dr Hassan actually exists -

Chariots of Faith

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Sadly the wheel examined by Hassan is nowhere to be found - an astounding occurrence for such a valuable artifact - so an independent assessment is not possible. Further searches on Hassan himself also seem to be a dead end and the few sites that mention him merely parrot the little information supplied by the Wyatt site.

Ron Wyatt and Those Egyptian Chariot Wheels

Discusses Mary Wyatt's misunderstanding and/or misquoting Hoffmeier in the chariot wheel debate.

“Observations on the Evolving Chariot Wheel in the 18th Dynasty” by James K. Hoffmeier, JARCE #13, 1976)

Yellum Notnef · 06-11-2012, 05:52 AM

The Loch Ness Monster is hiding the chariot wheels. She's got about 3 dozen just like it in her under water sea cave.

Being an agent of Satan, the Loch Ness Monster is sworn to keep the proofs of Christianity well hidden.

Go ahead and try to prove me wrong.

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06-10-2012, 10:41 PM	#1
Arizonaepu Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 514	Red Sea Chariots Can I get some help -- sources to refute this WND article: http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/chariots-...able-evidence/

06-10-2012, 11:02 PM	#3
spin Contributor Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: nowhere Posts: 15,747	Try googling "Ron Wyatt chariots fraud"

06-11-2012, 05:01 AM	#4
aeebee50 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 5,810	No fraud found at this time. Sounds like a sales pitch for the video and books, etc.

06-11-2012, 05:52 AM	#6
Yellum Notnef Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Gone Posts: 4,676	The Loch Ness Monster is hiding the chariot wheels. She's got about 3 dozen just like it in her under water sea cave. Being an agent of Satan, the Loch Ness Monster is sworn to keep the proofs of Christianity well hidden. Go ahead and try to prove me wrong.

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