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jules? · 11-24-2007, 02:10 PM

Welcome to the 'what do you think JC, Christianity was all about' poll

please vote and if you like, cite which author, book, argument helped to fashion your current opinion. If you are like me you may think there is several strands to the argument, i.e a basic Jewish apocalyptic cult became a tool/ invention of the empire. In this case vote for the argument that is the earliest.

It is just a snap shot to help me look at why one argument may have more weight than any other

thanks
Jules

youngalexander · 11-24-2007, 07:07 PM

You seem to have left out a few categories, conspicuously - don't know

skepticalbip · 11-24-2007, 07:39 PM

You left out an option for what I think he was too.

- one of many of the many messianic preachers of the time (or a compilation of several of them) that later writers attributed the usual divine characteristics to. (e.g. Nero was claimed to be divine, born of a virgin, and to preform miracles.)-

ApostateAbe · 11-24-2007, 09:27 PM

PIWA is more popular than I thought. That is my choice.

HelmetWB · 11-24-2007, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skepticalbip

You left out an option for what I think he was too.

- one of many of the many messianic preachers of the time (or a compilation of several of them) that later writers attributed the usual divine characteristics to. (e.g. Nero was claimed to be divine, born of a virgin, and to preform miracles.)-

This is pretty close to my 'guess.' But, the search for the 'truth' about Jesus will always be laced with folly due to a lack of confirmable evidence.

GenesisNemesis · 11-24-2007, 11:25 PM

All I know is what Jesus was not.

DBT · 11-24-2007, 11:56 PM

Probably a PIWA, who happened to be at just the right time and place to become the figurehead of a new world religion.

jules? · 11-25-2007, 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by youngalexander

You seem to have left out a few categories, conspicuously - don't know

Yes I know, but don't know just leaves a big hole and I am looking at snapshot of opinion. Of course with the exception of those who beleive he was the son of god none of us know. We just make an educated guess based on certain information. although a poll is helpful I am still wanting those turning point arguments.

thanks
jules

jules? · 11-25-2007, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skepticalbip

You left out an option for what I think he was too.

- one of many of the many messianic preachers of the time (or a compilation of several of them) that later writers attributed the usual divine characteristics to. (e.g. Nero was claimed to be divine, born of a virgin, and to preform miracles.)-

Yes I can see the problem, I would suggest a best fit for the moment and any future poll would need ' one or a compilation of messianic preachers'.

jules

Eldarion Lathria · 11-25-2007, 02:46 PM

A composite, part Jewish rebel, part streetcorner messiah, part accreting legends of other gods, and a huge helping of wishful thinking and fiction.

Eldarion Lathria

View Poll Results: what was the origins of jc/christianity
JC was the Son of God	4	6.45%
JC was a wonderworker and sage	0	0%
JC was a revolutionary, socially & or religious, peaceful or violent	5	8.06%
JC was a PIWA, [preaching itinerant Jewish apocalypticist	23	37.10%
JC was the title of the leader/leaders of a Jewish messianic sect [i.e Essene or other group]	3	4.84%
He was a MJ of a Greek/Judean hybred fertility/solar cult	3	4.84%
an MJ within a hybred of Greek/Judean platonic/logos philosophy	6	9.68%
a MJ of a Greek/Judean mystery cult [a.k.a sublunar god]	11	17.74%
the MJ was a symbol of a revolutionary political/social movement	0	0%
JC was a literary device in political satire and a roman invention [dating from the 1st to 3rd C]	7	11.29%
Voters: 62. You may not vote on this poll

11-24-2007, 02:10 PM	#1
jules? Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: mind the time rift, cardiff, wales Posts: 645	The 'what Do You Think Jc Was' Poll Welcome to the 'what do you think JC, Christianity was all about' poll please vote and if you like, cite which author, book, argument helped to fashion your current opinion. If you are like me you may think there is several strands to the argument, i.e a basic Jewish apocalyptic cult became a tool/ invention of the empire. In this case vote for the argument that is the earliest. It is just a snap shot to help me look at why one argument may have more weight than any other thanks Jules

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11-24-2007, 07:07 PM	#2
youngalexander Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mornington Peninsula Posts: 1,306	You seem to have left out a few categories, conspicuously - don't know

11-24-2007, 07:39 PM	#3
skepticalbip Contributor Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Searching for reality on the long and winding road Posts: 12,976	You left out an option for what I think he was too. - one of many of the many messianic preachers of the time (or a compilation of several of them) that later writers attributed the usual divine characteristics to. (e.g. Nero was claimed to be divine, born of a virgin, and to preform miracles.)-

11-24-2007, 09:27 PM	#4
ApostateAbe Contributor Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: MT Posts: 10,656	PIWA is more popular than I thought. That is my choice.

11-24-2007, 11:25 PM	#6
GenesisNemesis Contributor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A pale blue oblate spheroid. Posts: 20,351	All I know is what Jesus was not.

11-24-2007, 11:56 PM	#7
DBT Contributor Join Date: May 2003 Location: ɹǝpunuʍop puɐן ǝɥʇ Posts: 17,906	Probably a PIWA, who happened to be at just the right time and place to become the figurehead of a new world religion.

11-25-2007, 02:46 PM	#10
Eldarion Lathria Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Atlantis Posts: 2,449	A composite, part Jewish rebel, part streetcorner messiah, part accreting legends of other gods, and a huge helping of wishful thinking and fiction. Eldarion Lathria

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