neorask

1. Excerpt from the Bible: (Acts 1:6-8)
1:6 So when they had gathered together, they began to ask him, “Lord, is this the time when you are restoring the kingdom to Israel?� 1:7 He told them, “You are not permitted to know the times or periods that the Father has set by his own authority. 1:8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the farthest parts of the earth.

2. Most scientists confirm the existence of the ice age. They also confirm that the ice age must have been caused by a catastrophic event that drastically changed the climate of the world.

3. Scientists often use studies of sedementary buildup or radiation half-life levels in carbon to determine how old something might be. Now take into account all of the oil and natural gas deep beneath the earth's surface. How did all of the material that made oil become so deeply lodged beneath the earth's surface? Could it be that the flood washed great amounts of rock and soil on top of theres materials? And how do we know what the climate was like before the flood? Could it be that the methods scientists use to calculate the age of something may not be accurate due to varying climate changes? It is very possible.

Naruto

:rolling: :rolling: :rolling:

I don't know where to begin...

Ovazor

Yes, they agree that there has been several ice ages, but...

this claim is not true. Ice ages were in themselves periods when the climate changed, but they did not occur as a result of any catastrophic events.

No, it could not. Sediments accumulate gradually during long time.

We know for fact that the flood did not happen, thus your question is as meaningfull as asking how we know the blood type of Santa Claus.

neorask

No, we don't know for a fact that the flood did not happen.

Ovazor

You are wrong.

gregor2

We know for a fact that there is no evidence for a global flood and that physically it is impossible for it to have happened.

Harry Bosch

Thanks for answering my questions. Most creationists fold like a cheap suede suite when confronted with hard questions. At least you are willing to take the fire. Well, I'm no expert in the Bible, so I'll let others fight #1.

Your evidence of Noah's flood is that the last ice age (there have been many) was caused by a catastrophic event?? Where is your evidence of this? Why was this catastrophic event not recorded by the Chinese or the Egyptians or anyone outside of the middle east? I took an entry level geology class several years ago. Its really not difficult to find and date regional floods along the West coast. Minor floods that affect more than one bay stick out like a sore thumb. A large flood that occurred 3,500 years ago should be easy to find. Secondly, wouldn't there be many many civilizations that were flourishing, then they suddenly went extinct - all around the same time? All we need is one source outside of the Bible and we would be really cooking!

Mathetes

The last ice age ended more than 10,000 years ago. Noah's flood is supposed to have happened around 2,500 BCE. Please try to select the right millenium.

Also note that the last ice age ended way before the Biblical date of creation, around 4,500 BCE.

Toto

I don't see a lot of Biblical criticism here. This is clearly ~Elsewhere~ material.

Dean Anderson

Sorry to bounce this thread around, but it appears to still be sensible discussion - albeit not BC&H material.

I think, as a flood thread, it could do well in E/C...