Steven Avery

Hi Sven,

Yes, I agree that the skeptic kvetches like the

"abandoned .. four threads"

stuff would be better moved or moderated out of IIDB. However it was allowed in, so I responded with context, I really had no intention of getting into any of this stuff, I was enjoying the Nazareth and 1st-century Judaism threads.

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Originally Posted by Sven Preaching again?

Sven .. it turns out there is one section on IIDB where scripture verses are offlimits !

Not IIDB, though, and I always appreciate the word of God and I should be better attuned to the verses and quotations from the Bible in my discussions. So if you don't want to read scripture verses, you will have to skip by my posts.

Interestingly, one of the 'warnings' in my dossier (the main one of the previous couple of months before the suspension) was the discovery of the censored section, where I wasn't just informed that scriptures were censored, I was given the 'warning' for my 'action' !

1Peter 3:15
But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts:
and be ready always to give an answer to every man
that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you
with meekness and fear

Shalom,
Steven

Paul2

It would be like a Muslim coming onto a Christian forum, finding the Christian praise Jesus section, and then posting about how great Allah is. There's just some things that are considered rude. I hope you understand.

You can quote the Bible when discussing the quotes, or when bible quotes add to the discussion of something else, but just quoting the bible to drop a quote is just plain silly.

Steven Avery

Paul, you are essentially making up your own directive. IIDB does have a section where Bible quotes are not allowed, they are censored. (And rather than informing a Christian poster with a PM or in the thread they will issue one of the dossier "warnings".)

However this is supposed to be a section open to allowing including full expression (sometimes too much, imho, as in the vulgarity that is allowed, which I often view as a type of atheist evangelism and of no value to dialog).

So there is no such limitation in this BCH section of IIDB. And as a believer in the Bible as the word of God and the Messiahship of Jesus Christ the Bible is a part of my literary expression. You are welcome to politic with IIDB to change the rules to censor Bible quotes here, however unless that is done you can expect so see my literary Bible expression. If you want to stay on BCH and it concerns you I think there is an "Ignore" feature.

Shalom,
Steven

Paul2

Warnings are how they let you know you did something wrong. I've gotten a few myself for random things, it's not that big of a deal. Only when you repeatedly violate the rules there is a problem.

From the lounge and secular lifestyles guidelines:

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* Theists are welcome to introduce themselves and socialize with other users, but not to proselytize, preach, witness, or otherwise promote a theistic viewpoint; such posts are unwelcome here and will be subjected to heavy-handed moderation. * Theists are welcome to introduce themselves and socialize with other users, but not to proselytize, preach, witness, or otherwise promote a theistic viewpoint; such posts are unwelcome here and will be subjected to heavy-handed moderation.

Quoting the bible to proselytize, preach, or witness, is against these guidelines. Please note the sentence that says "such posts are unwelcome here and will be subjected to heavy-handed moderation."

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However this is supposed to be a section open to allowing including full expression (sometimes too much, imho, as in the vulgarity that is allowed, which I often view as a type of atheist evangelism and of no value to dialog). So there is no such limitation in this BCH section of IIDB.

You said in your prior post that "there is one section on IIDB where scripture verses are offlimits" and followed by "I always appreciate the word of God and I should be better attuned to the verses and quotations from the Bible in my discussions."

I agree with you. There should be no limitations on discussion, regardless of ones view. However, your posting of biblical quotes (for example, your post at 7:37am) adds nothing to the conversation. You're just dropping quotes, apparently, just to preach your faith to us and how much you love Jesus. That's great, I'm glad you like the bible and enjoy reading quotes, and I'm glad you have faith in Jesus. Really, whatever helps you is fine. However, it doesn't belong here. If you wanted to discuss the quotes, then great, start a new thread. Most people would consider your actions rude and in some cases inflammatory.

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And as a believer in the Bible as the word of God and the Messiahship of Jesus Christ the Bible is a part of my literary expression. You are welcome to politic with IIDB to change the rules to censor Bible quotes here, however unless that is done you can expect so see my literary Bible expression. If you want to stay on BCH and it concerns you I think there is an "Ignore" feature.

You're obviously having problems fitting in here. You haven't made many friends, and you've had yourself banned/warnned a few times. What is your ultimate purpose here? I assume it's to convert a few of us atheists to your side. Don't you think that your actions may be self-defeating? How can you witness (in a subtle way) or attempt to convince people of what you believe in if you're constantly breaking the simple rules, or merely just rubbing people the wrong way (dropping bible quotes when they're not necessary)?


Sure, you may think that the rules are stacked against you, and they may well be. But you can work within them and give us your message in a way that makes everyone happy.

Yellum Notnef

Best. Thread. Ever.

Julian

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As was rightly pointed out, this is a discussion about moderation and therefore belongs elsewhere. Hence, punt..!

Julian
Moderator BC&H
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Spherical Time

Keyword there is elsewhere. Moved to ~E~.

Spherical Time
M@L

gregor

Prax -

Since you're back on-line, go ahead with your:

1. Scholarly defenses of Ron Wyatt

2. Evidence of the changing speed of light

3. Explanation of "pierced" hands and feet

4. Demonstration that tetrarchs and ethnarchs were used interchangably.