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Old 02-01-2007, 03:12 PM   #1
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Wikipedia has listed an apocryphal Epistle of Paul to the Ionians and Third Epistle to the Thessalonians. I have determined that the latter is a hypothetical letter which probably never existed. However, I can find no information on the Epistle to the Ionians. Is it real? Or just another wikipedia error?

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Never heard of it. You might ask the user Cheesedreams, who put it in.
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From here it appears that the basis was some dispute over Christian history, which I will not even try to follow.
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An Epistle to the Ionians is highly unlikely. Ionia was an ancient geographical name, and Paul appears to write letters to city churches in the Roman Empire. Jews and others refer to all Greeks as "Ionians" - but that would be like a letter to the "Greeks" - not very personal.

Could this be a little joke from CheeseDreams - like the map makers who insert non-existent cities in their maps to track unauthorized copies?
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An Epistle to the Ionians is highly unlikely. Ionia was an ancient geographical name, and Paul appears to write letters to city churches in the Roman Empire.
Except Galatians. Galatia was a region (see Galatians 1.2).

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Either that or just plain incompetence.

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I think this user is more deluded than jocular...
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I bet it came from a breaking apart of "Thessa" and "lonians" across two lines. Something like this, for example, may have led to confusion on the part of idiots like CheeseDreams.
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I bet it came from a breaking apart of "Thessa" and "lonians" across two lines. Something like this, for example, may have led to confusion on the part of idiots like CheeseDreams.
Dude... that's textual criticism:notworthy:
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Heh...I guess it is.

So, am I to understand that the only known non-canonical Pauline Epistles are 3 Corinthians and Laodiceans?

Thanks for the help, everyone.
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It's amazing how that Epistle to the Ionians has got around.

There are also the non-canonical Letters between Paul and Seneca. Perhaps these are so blatant forgeries that they aren't even counted as non-canonical?
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