Solo

Kind of reminds of Woody Allen's quip that it took him years to realize that the Czar and the Tsar refered to the same person.

Jiri

Ted Hoffman

Could someone help one like me who has no access to a respectable library, by kindly indicating which translations of Tacitus use Christ and not Christus, and vice versa? Please?

Toto

The Suetonius reference is to "Chrestus" and the most straightforward interpretation of that passage is that there was a person named Chrestus agitating among the Jews in Rome in the first century.

The Tacitus reference is to a Christus who was crucified under Pilate. It seems pretty obvious.

The only thing the Suetonius reference has going for it is that Christus and Chrestus were pronounced the same and used interchangeably after about the second century.

You can draw your own conclusions.

Ted Hoffman

In your view Jiri, can this dispute be settled purely by an analogy like this?

Ted Hoffman

Ah, I see. I agree that that is pretty obvious. Now, aa5, where is the problem with this argument? You want to argue that many Christuses were crucified by Pilate or what?

Solo

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/txt/ah/ta...sAnnals15.html

http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/tac/a15040.htm

http://www.ourcivilisation.com/smart...als/chap15.htm

Looking forward to your theory, Ted. :wave:

Jiri

Solo

Yes.

Jiri

Jeffrey Gibson

Aren't these all the same translation -- that of The Modern Library edition of The Annals by Alfred John Church and William Jackson Brodribb?

As to translations that use Christ instead of the transliteration of the Latin, see the Penguin and the Loeb editions of The Annals.

Jeffrey

2-J

Why did anyone translate it as 'Christus' in the first place?

Amaleq13

They were writing in Latin.