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Old 02-03-2004, 08:15 AM   #1
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Default Beasts of Rev.13 - Arafat and his Prime Minister

The Beast of the Sea – Rev. 13

“And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns.” The ten horns are ten kings, Rev. 17:12. "And here is the mind which has wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the women sitteth", Rev.17:9.

The mystery of the seven heads is one of the biggest stumbling blocks to the understanding of Bible prophecy. As a result of a misinterpretation, scholars have caused all other prophecies to be misinterpreted. This widely accepted mistake has blinded the Christian world. God will surely come as a thief in the night. The beast nations do not involve a Revived Roman Empire. Also , the concept that Rome is the seat of the beast simply because it sits on seven hills is also false. The connection that has to be made concerning this prophecy is that 7 heads are 7 mountains and the 7 mountains are 7 nations. In other words, when mountains are used in scripture many times it is referring to nations. The last beast empire is Islamic.

The seven nations that compose the beast empire are Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Jordan and Egypt. The ten kings are all the present rulers of these countries plus the three that are subdued by Arafat. These are Netanyahu, Barak and Sharon. Arafat is the little horn, which is the eleventh, and represents the land of Palestine. Collectively, these nations compose the beast of Revelation 13 with Arafat as their leader.

The beast with seven heads and ten horns is Yasser Arafat. He is mentioned in Dan. 11:23. "And after a league made with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people". Dan. 9:27 says it more precisely. " And he [Arafat] shall confirm the covenant with many [Rabin] for one week".

There is a major difference between the beast, false prophet and the Antichrist. These are three separate individuals. 2nd Thess. chapter 2 talks about the man of sin. This is the Antichrist. He cannot be revealed until the falling away first. This falling away happens when Satan and his angels are cast out of heaven. This is written in Rev. chapter 12. The Antichrist is Satan. He will not be revealed until the rapture happens first.

This only leaves the false prophet, Abu Mazen or Ahmed Qureia. This man has all the power of the first beast [ARAFAT] and causes them to worship him, whose deadly wound was healed. The deadly head [Nation] wound is the land taken by Israel in the 1967 war and wanted by the Arabs for a Palestinian homeland. As land is given back to the Arabs through negotiation it is being healed.

"And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space”. Rev. 17:10

In 1948, in Israel's war for independence, they were attacked by 5 Arab nations. These nations were Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq and Egypt. All of these nations lost the war and in 1949 four of them signed armistice agreements.

And one is, refers to Israel. Israel won its war of independence.

The other that had not yet come was Yasser Arafat and the Palestinian Authority.

“And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition." Rev. 17:11

Due to Yasser Arafat’s corruption and terrorism, Israel and the United States ended negotiations with him and called for new Palestinian leadership. Abu Mazen was elected new Palestinian Prime Minister and is the eighth and is of the seventh [Arafat]. Once the Arabs take over Jerusalem , Abu Mazen will cause them to worship Arafat and Satan.

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Mayhaps a friendly mod will move this to BC&H, where you'll get a much better response. That being said welcome ephraim!

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The mystery of the seven heads is one of the biggest stumbling blocks to the understanding of Bible prophecy.
I wouldn't say that. I would say that shoehorning everything in Revelations to be a prophecy certainly does make things difficult.

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As a result of a misinterpretation, scholars have caused all other prophecies to be misinterpreted.
That's a rather broad sweeping brush you have there...

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The beast nations do not involve a Revived Roman Empire.
Right. They involve the old Roman empire, because this isn't prophecy, it's more like purposefull ambiguity.

In reference to all the rest of your post...I have seen a million and one ways to interpret Revelations into current events. Usually this an attempt to scare people that these are the "end times". So all I can really say is two words:


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I had no idea that there were only seven Islamic nations. Saudi Arabia would seem to be one of the more significant omissions...
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The mystery of the seven heads is one of the biggest stumbling blocks to the understanding of Bible prophecy.
A good starting point would be to demonstrate that the Bible contains ANY prophecy at all.

Good luck.
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Moved to BC&H...

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I also find it odd that Iran, a Shi'a and non-arab country would be included with the others. During Nasser's presidency, Syria and Egypt united to be the United Arab Republic, with Iraq and Yemen being associated allies, so it is conceivable that a charismatic leader may bring them together again. However, the idea of Arafat, of all people being chosen to lead the new muslim juggernaught is ludicrous. He is neither charismatic nor is he widely respected among the islamic community. Also, he is a secularist. The PLO has always stood for a SECULAR independant Palestine. This makes him a very poor fugleman for the islamic menace.

I've heard a lot of dumb revelations interpretations, but this is almost as ridiculous as Jack Chick's (which has the pope elected to be spiritual leader of the world by everyone except the southern baptists) What paranoid website did you cut and paste this from?
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What paranoid website did you cut and paste this from?
It appears to be his own paranoid website.
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've heard a lot of dumb revelations interpretations, but this is almost as ridiculous as Jack Chick's (which has the pope elected to be spiritual leader of the world by everyone except the southern baptists) What paranoid website did you cut and paste this from?
Hey now, be nice.

That said, I disagree with the OP but it's still an interesting interpretation.
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. . . but it's still an interesting interpretation.
Spoken by many, many shrinks through watching on the otherside of the two-way-mirror. . . .

Anyways, would recommend that if Ephraim returneth he avail himself first with some of the basic scholarly resources first.

Besides . . . he neglects that the Brady children ARE the "seven heads" with the seventh being that kid with the glasses they added in fullfilment of the prophecies. . . .

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Isn't it grand how you can make Revelations mean whatever you want it to? I think we had a thread in Elsewhere a long way back discussing all the potential Antichrist candidates among other things. Personally I'd say the 'biggest stumbling block' to interpreting the drug-influenced story that is Revelations is that whole "I am coming soon" bit. You'd think an omnipotent and omniscient being would be have a tighter reign on his schedule, I mean 2000 years and still waiting...
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Oh ye of little faith!

If a "day" is a million years, what then is "soon?"

I will pray for you. . . .

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