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BBC accused of provoking Christians with Mary Magdalene documentary

Comment from a historian:

Chili

No, Magdalene was Adam's wife and she was called Eve in Gen.3. Together they took up residence in the TOK, right next to but outside the TOL.

With Jesus being 'second Adam' and Mary being 'second Eve' it is Mary who crucifies the 'first Adam' to set man free, who is no longer human beneath the Jew, but instead is fully man in the image of God as created to be [in eternity].

To get this done Adam must first become the second Adam and for this he must be born again, as John said to say, and I suppose 'spirit filled' to never leave him orphaned, he adds, to get to this point in life.

What makes this more complicated is that Jesus spoke from on the cross and said: "Son, there is your mother, mother there is your son." So now, Mary never was Jesus' wife, God forbid, as She then would be a sinner too and would no longer be Mary but Eve instead and would not be standing there right next to John.

The upshot here is that the 'child becomes the father of the man' and his name was Joseph, who here now took Mary to be his wife (under his care) who therefore took the 'body of Jesus' home as he just happen to have a place for him and Pilate agreed with that.

andrewcriddle

Although non-canonical accounts of Mary Magdalene are interesting for the study of early Christianity and its attitudes to women; it seems unlikely that they provide us with any information about the historical Mary Magdalene.

Andrew Criddle

wordy

she seems to get the same role that Paul took on himself.
Paul supposed to teasing Peter and the others for being Super Apostles
that had met Jesus in the flesh while Paul only in the Spirit.

Mary M. supposed to be his most beloved disciple that he even kissed.
She is described that way to be the highest among the highest
and my guess is that those who write about her in that way
want to say them have a better take on the message of Jesus
knowing secrets him only told her and none of the others.

A kind of hierarchical closer to the Center message.
we know things you guys have no idea about.

Is it not most likely a kind of rhetoric trick to say we know the real truth!

Duvduv

Personally I do not think that the person Mary Magdalene had anything to do with a prototype named Miriam the Hairdresser. Magdalene simply refers to a place known as Magdala Nunayya, a place not far from Tiberias (Matthew 15:39) and all those other locations near the Sea of Galilee mentioned in the gospels, including the Beatitudes. As I mentioned elsewhere, a very common thread among the gospels was the familiarity with locations right near the Sea of Galilee.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Tes..._Jesus#Galilee
http://www.blueletterbible.org/study/pnt/pnt07.cfm#P03
And of course the question is WHY did the authors of the gospels find locations in Galilee so significant at all for their story??

outhouse

Agreed.

It only helps discover how the early movement was evolving

JoeWallack

JW:
Based on statistics I think it more likely Jesus was married than crucified. Crucifixion in early 1st century Israel would have been otherwise unknown and not being married at that time would have been next to unknown. It would also help explain why Jesus died first. He wanted to Boom!


Joseph

WOMAN, n.

An animal usually living in the vicinity of Man, and having a rudimentary susceptibility to domestication. It is credited by many of the elder zoologists with a certain vestigial docility acquired in a former state of seclusion, but naturalists of the postsusananthony period, having no knowledge of the seclusion, deny the virtue and declare that such as creation's dawn beheld, it roareth now. The species is the most widely distributed of all beasts of prey, infesting all habitable parts of the globe, from Greeland's spicy mountains to India's moral strand. The popular name (wolfman) is incorrect, for the creature is of the cat kind. The woman is lithe and graceful in its movement, especially the American variety (felis pugnans), is omnivorous and can be taught not to talk.

ErrancyWiki

outhouse

And what statistics might that be?



Isn't that rather ridiculous?

Israel was not in a closed vacuum where nothing went in or out.

Hellenistic Judaism had members all over the diaspora, using the Roman roads.

Crucifixion had been used for hundreds and hundreds of years prior to this.

This means of death was used for a long time and would not have been a unknown means of punishment, the Romans just sprang on them when the temple fell.


http://phdiva.blogspot.co.uk/2011/08...t-century.html

Because of the form of the tomb, the ossuary and the pottery found with him we can date the burial to the first century, and more specifically the Hasmonean period (which ended in 37BC).

outhouse

Joe, here is more information for you.

http://www.infidels.org/library/mode...omb/roman.html

aa5874

What are the Canonical sources that provide us with information about the historical Mary Magdalene?

The authors of the Gospels are falsely attributed, their stories are most likely non-historical and it is not known of any actual evidence that the stories of Mary Magdalene did occur if she did live.