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Amaleq13 · 12-30-2003, 05:53 PM

Last week in a store, I noticed they were selling plastic manger scenes for display in one's yard. The baby Jesus had blond hair and blue eyes.

I almost shot Sprite out my nose I was laughing so hard.

lpetrich · 12-30-2003, 10:30 PM

Xenophanes (Greece, ~550 BCE):

(11) Homer and Hesiod have ascribed to the gods all things that are a shame and a disgrace among mortals, stealings and adulteries and deceivings of one another. R. P. 99.

(12) Since they have uttered many lawless deeds of the gods, stealings and adulteries and deceivings of one another. R. P. ib.

(14) But mortals deem that the gods are begotten as they are, and have clothes like theirs, and voice and form. R. P. 100.

(15) Yes, and if oxen and horses or lions had hands, and could paint with their hands, and produce works of art as men do, horses would paint the forms of the gods like horses, and oxen like oxen, and make their bodies in the image of their several kinds. R. P. ib.

(16) The Ethiopians make their gods black and snub-nosed; the Thracians say theirs have blue eyes and red hair. R. P. 100 b.

Source: http://plato.evansville.edu/public/burnet/ch2bi.htm

'Nuff said

Adora · 12-31-2003, 12:25 AM

I'm sure the Mormons love it.

Plump-DJ · 01-01-2004, 03:32 PM

Toto makes an interesting point. Whatever we think we can know about Jesus, most of it seems to come from the NT and from that I don't think we can draw up this 'universal Christ' that
all faiths can enjoy equally.

12-30-2003, 10:30 PM	#12
lpetrich Contributor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Lebanon, OR, USA Posts: 16,829	Xenophanes would understand Xenophanes (Greece, ~550 BCE): (11) Homer and Hesiod have ascribed to the gods all things that are a shame and a disgrace among mortals, stealings and adulteries and deceivings of one another. R. P. 99. (12) Since they have uttered many lawless deeds of the gods, stealings and adulteries and deceivings of one another. R. P. ib. (14) But mortals deem that the gods are begotten as they are, and have clothes like theirs, and voice and form. R. P. 100. (15) Yes, and if oxen and horses or lions had hands, and could paint with their hands, and produce works of art as men do, horses would paint the forms of the gods like horses, and oxen like oxen, and make their bodies in the image of their several kinds. R. P. ib. (16) The Ethiopians make their gods black and snub-nosed; the Thracians say theirs have blue eyes and red hair. R. P. 100 b. Source: http://plato.evansville.edu/public/burnet/ch2bi.htm 'Nuff said

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12-30-2003, 05:53 PM	#11
Amaleq13 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Eagle River, Alaska Posts: 7,816	Last week in a store, I noticed they were selling plastic manger scenes for display in one's yard. The baby Jesus had blond hair and blue eyes. I almost shot Sprite out my nose I was laughing so hard.

12-31-2003, 12:25 AM	#13
Adora Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,743	I'm sure the Mormons love it.

01-01-2004, 03:32 PM	#14
Plump-DJ Regular Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Oztralia (Aussie Aussie Aussie) Posts: 153	Toto makes an interesting point. Whatever we think we can know about Jesus, most of it seems to come from the NT and from that I don't think we can draw up this 'universal Christ' that all faiths can enjoy equally.

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