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QRUEL · 08-09-2006, 10:58 PM

I just got back from watching Oliver Stones new film World Trade Center...and before hand there was a very LONG commercial for a discovery channel show coming up called The Exodus Decoded...it had James Cameron (of Titanic fame) blabbing on and on about how they found irreffutable archeological evidence that the Exodus happened.

No wonder why it's so hard to reason with christians when the media is so pervasive about perpetuating the myth !

here's the link and a blurb

http://www.historychannel.com/thcsea...etworkCode=THC

Premieres:
Sunday, August 20 @ 8pm ET/PT

The story of the Exodus invokes an epic tale--Pharaohs and Israelites, plagues and miracles, splitting of the sea and drowning of an army, and Moses. It's at the heart of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. After much research--working with archaeologists, Egyptologists, geologists, and theologians--filmmaker Simcha Jacobovici concluded that the Exodus took place hundreds of years earlier than thought. With a new timetable, Jacobovici reexamined artifacts and discovered that the traditional consensus on the date was reached without reference to Judaic texts that record the oral traditions. When Jacobovici consulted these texts, they revealed names of people and places unknown to researchers until recently when extensive excavations in the Nile Delta took place. Teaming up with special effects designers, he created a unique digital experience of the Exodus. Blending archaeological findings with eye-catching effects, Jacobovici creates a virtual museum to showcase his discoveries. TVPG V cc

Sven · 08-10-2006, 12:33 AM

I saw it on TV, so it must be true!

Toto · 08-10-2006, 12:35 AM

Simcha Jacobovici also did a documentary on the James Ossuary before it was determined to be a fake.

QRUEL · 08-10-2006, 12:41 AM

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Simcha Jacobovici also did a documentary on the James Ossuary before it was determined to be a fake.

In laymans terms, what's the James Ossuary ?

so he did a documentary hat got debunked and proven flase ?

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Toto · 08-10-2006, 12:53 AM

An ossuary is a box for the bones of a dead person. In crowded places where there isn't enough space for burials, a corpse was often buried in a tomb for a year, and then the bones were dug up and placed in an ossuary so other corpses could be buried. The James Ossuary purported to be a bone box with the inscription "James son of Josephy Brother of Jesus" and was promoted as the ossuary of Jesus' brother James.

The point is that Simcha Jacobovici is a bit credulous when it comes to a good story.

Ruhan · 08-10-2006, 01:51 AM

There is already a Wiki covering this documentary.

They are trying to show that the Hyksos were in fact the Israelites, which is absurd. The Hyksos occupied Egypt between 1700 and 1500 BCE and were finally overthrown by Ah-mose. They then fled the region via Canaan.

Sven · 08-10-2006, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruhan

They are trying to show that the Hyksos were in fact the Israelites, which is absurd. The Hyksos occupied Egypt between 1700 and 1500 BCE

It's particularly silly because they were not slaves, but rather ruled Egypt.

Ruhan · 08-10-2006, 06:29 AM

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It's particularly silly because they were not slaves, but rather ruled Egypt.

They also invented military technology which the Israelites didn't have for quite some time.

The most likely event is that when the Hyksos fled, some of them remained in Canaan and the story developed in the story of Moses (Ahmose). Instead of Ahmose expelling the Hyksos, the story developed into him leading them out of Canaan.

Kosh · 08-10-2006, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by QRUEL

When Jacobovici consulted these texts, they revealed names of people and places unknown to researchers until recently when extensive excavations in the Nile Delta took place. Teaming up with special effects designers, he created a unique digital experience of the Exodus. Blending archaeological findings with eye-catching effects, Jacobovici creates a virtual museum to showcase his discoveries. TVPG V cc

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KDB · 08-10-2006, 07:42 AM

like with most stories there is probably some truth to the exodus one, too. but either way, what difference does it make? :huh:

08-09-2006, 10:58 PM	#1
QRUEL Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Midwest Posts: 121	EXODUS really proven true this time ! I just got back from watching Oliver Stones new film World Trade Center...and before hand there was a very LONG commercial for a discovery channel show coming up called The Exodus Decoded...it had James Cameron (of Titanic fame) blabbing on and on about how they found irreffutable archeological evidence that the Exodus happened. No wonder why it's so hard to reason with christians when the media is so pervasive about perpetuating the myth ! here's the link and a blurb http://www.historychannel.com/thcsea...etworkCode=THC Premieres: Sunday, August 20 @ 8pm ET/PT The story of the Exodus invokes an epic tale--Pharaohs and Israelites, plagues and miracles, splitting of the sea and drowning of an army, and Moses. It's at the heart of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. After much research--working with archaeologists, Egyptologists, geologists, and theologians--filmmaker Simcha Jacobovici concluded that the Exodus took place hundreds of years earlier than thought. With a new timetable, Jacobovici reexamined artifacts and discovered that the traditional consensus on the date was reached without reference to Judaic texts that record the oral traditions. When Jacobovici consulted these texts, they revealed names of people and places unknown to researchers until recently when extensive excavations in the Nile Delta took place. Teaming up with special effects designers, he created a unique digital experience of the Exodus. Blending archaeological findings with eye-catching effects, Jacobovici creates a virtual museum to showcase his discoveries. TVPG V cc

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08-10-2006, 12:33 AM	#2
Sven Contributor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: outraged about the stiffling of free speech here Posts: 10,987	I saw it on TV, so it must be true!

08-10-2006, 12:35 AM	#3
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	Simcha Jacobovici also did a documentary on the James Ossuary before it was determined to be a fake.

08-10-2006, 12:53 AM	#5
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	An ossuary is a box for the bones of a dead person. In crowded places where there isn't enough space for burials, a corpse was often buried in a tomb for a year, and then the bones were dug up and placed in an ossuary so other corpses could be buried. The James Ossuary purported to be a bone box with the inscription "James son of Josephy Brother of Jesus" and was promoted as the ossuary of Jesus' brother James. The point is that Simcha Jacobovici is a bit credulous when it comes to a good story.

08-10-2006, 01:51 AM	#6
Ruhan Regular Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London Posts: 176	There is already a Wiki covering this documentary. They are trying to show that the Hyksos were in fact the Israelites, which is absurd. The Hyksos occupied Egypt between 1700 and 1500 BCE and were finally overthrown by Ah-mose. They then fled the region via Canaan.

08-10-2006, 07:42 AM	#10
KDB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: . Posts: 569	like with most stories there is probably some truth to the exodus one, too. but either way, what difference does it make? :huh:

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