Vinnie

Flash Slideshow is complete and on my new site!


http://www.after-hourz.net/biblicalerrancy.html

Enjoy.

If anyone wants to counter what I wrote I'm taking them one section at a time. First section for now. Feel free to blast me

Vinnie

Capt_Drakes

I think you left a word out. Slide 18 says - The OT states that the Amelakites repeately attacked a vulnerable.

A vulnerable what?

In slide 19. It reads - Leaving them in the desert would have left the, (I assume you mean them)

and

the last sentence reads - Them most humane and...



sorry to nitpick

CJD

You Spongelite, you.

Capt'n Drakes beat me to it, but here's the short list:

Slide 3, line 8: delete the second "I"

Slide 6, line 6: "who was ther with her" should be set off by dashes.

6.11: comma after "Eden"

6.12: "learns" should be in quotes

7.10–11: this sentence is not interrogative

8.5: insert "the" after "that"

8.11: unless in parentheses, Scripture references are not usually abbreviated

10.1: insert period after "problems"

10.4: comma after "alotted"

10.7: delete "on"

10.9: insert apostrophe in "Its"

10.10: comma after "Australia"

11.1: comma after "Plus"

11.1: maybe rewrite sentence as follows: "In addition, we are forced to swallow the notion that eight people took care of all these animals, which includes, by the way, the intellectual know-how to care for animals they have seen before. This is especially problematic since many animals have specialized diets."

11.11: comma after "problems"

12.2–3: rewrite ". . . on board the ark, which then rapidly evolved . . . ."

12.3: delete first "of"

12.4: pluralize "suggestion"

12.7: Insert period after that last sentence

12.12: insert comma after "Hebrew"

12.3: "reinterpretation" suggests that the flood narrative has never been interpreted that way. History shows otherwise.

That's enough for one day.

Regards,

CJD

gregor

I appreciate your hard work, but since you invited editorials . . .

While I like the idea and the images, it kind of lacks organization and misses out on some huge Bible errors, and theological conundrums.

Were it me, I'd start with something like five big issues (ranging from errors to logical problems) and have examples under each:

1. The problem of evil and death with a Tri-O, Xian God
2. External contradictions - conflicts with known history
3. Internal contradictions Vol. 1 - the multiple author issues of the OT
4. Internal contradictions Vol. 2 - the synoptic problem and Acts v. Galatians
5. Failed prophesies of OT and NT

Under each topic you could organize several examples of each.

- Just trying to be constructive -

Vinnie

The SHORT list?

I feel like an idiot! :banghead:

Thanks for pointing those out and to you too Capt'n Drakes!

Vinnie

Vinnie

Thanks for the constructive criticism. First let me state that it was never my goal to be thorough. I basically wanted to put up about 10 sections with a number of varying biblical problems (error, absurdity or immorality). I also wanted to keep it short and simple.

For this reason I limited myself to what I could include. My goal tried to take into account the audience. I wanted my objections to be poignant (e.g. the absurdity of cursing all snakes on account of the devil). It should smack you right in the face. Multiple authorship of the Pent does not do that.

Also, in section 8 (the internal contradictions) all 6 of the selct errors were from the NT. Why? Most Christians are more familiar with the NT and the Gospel stories. I tried to stick to more relevant issues there.

Everything I wrote, I tried to make it "in your face--this is an absurdity type stuff".

Conflicts with known history might come off as "boring" to most readers.

I can't discuss the synoptic problem or any aspect of bib criticism without writting 50 pages on the subject. See my articles on my old website (haven't been moved over to the new one yet):

http://www.acfaith.com/featuredwritings.html

I did seriously think about talking about Acts vs Galatians in section 8 along with GJohn vs the synoptics (which I have a lengthy article on).

Space is an issue. For example, I wrote that "Why was Jesus born in Bethlehem? Did Mary and Josephus live there (Mt) or did they go there because of a census (Lk)?"

Thats it for that issue. But I have about a 4 page article up on that very contradiction:
http://www.acfaith.com/infancyerror.html

I was trying ot be poignant, blunt, practical and in your face. If I didn't accomplish those goals then I failed.

If I was trying to be thorough or comprehensive, I NEVER would have made it as a Flash Presentation. I would have used plain old text.

Since prophecy is commonly cited as evidence I agree that a prophecy section would probably be in order. I could make that 10 and have the finalthoughts (section 10) remain what it is, a summary.

Vinnie

Dominus Paradoxum

As I said before, I don't know how you can accept all those problems in the bible and still buy into the whole God / Christianity thing.

Vinnie

I don't--not anymore.

Vinnie

conkermaniac

Great work, Vinnie! Here are the mistakes that I found:

2.2 "God creates the universe and the earth. He then created the Garden of Eden."

2.2 "in cognito" --> incognito (yes, it is a word)

2.3 "The assumption here...until this time." (use a period)

2.3 "Let's be reasonable people...not factual history." (combine sentences)

3.2 "The Genesis flood...its problems." (don't forget the period!)

4.2 "But Moses was outraged...the woman to live." (women)

...I'll finish this list when I get back.

Madkins007

It is nicely done, and obviously a labor of love.

While I doubt any devout Christians will be much swayed by it (it is all stuff we have heard before, although we have varying responses to the questions posed), hopefully it will help people continue to ask questions and challenge assumptions.