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Old 08-26-2007, 11:16 AM   #1
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Johnny Skeptic has challenged me a number of times on this topic and so I will start to defend it.

Forgive me for my late start Johnny.


Josh McDowell, The New Evidence that demands a verdict, pp.4-18


Reasons why the Bible is a unique book

1. In its Continuity
2. In its circulation
3. In its translation
4. In its survival
5. In its Teachings
6. In its influence on civilization

The Bible has survived throughout time, long before computers and the printing press. The Bible has been copied many times, and even after all these times the Bible still is the Word of God that is infallible and inerrant.

If Johnny Skeptic would do some research he would discover that OTHER ancient writings of the same time period do not have as much manuscript evidence to support them than the Bible does.

Also if Johnny would do some research on Biblical scholar John Lea and read this book called The Greatest Book in the World he would see far more support for the scriptures than that of Shakespeare's works.

Also if Johnny would read history he would see that MANY MANY attempts have been made to destroy the Bible, but God allowed his holy word to survive.

The devil and his servants have not given up on their attempts to destroy the word of God, and even after so many attempts to destroy it failed, today the devil is using his own Al-Qaeda whom have invaded the church to destroy the word of God. Many of these Al-Qaeda do not teach the Bible, and so the flock in these churches, cannot discern, since they do not read the word.

The devil will once again fail.

I look forward to your reply Johnny.


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The devil and his servants have not given up on their attempts to destroy the word of God, and even after so many attempts to destroy it failed, today the devil is using his own Al-Qaeda whom have invaded the church to destroy the word of God.
Wait, the spiritual terrists are literal terrists now? I thought the spiritual terrists were worse than literal terrists. Make up your mind, BJ!

I'm asking as much for your sake as out of curiosity, y'know. If you actually have evidence that Al Quaeda has infiltrated American churches, you could put those gosh-darned spiritual terrists away for good, even without a trial! It'd help if they were actually planning some sort of attack, though. Like, something that actually gets people injured or killed, or at least blows up picturesque monuments. Stuff like that. Not just allowing women to be ministers, repealing fag-burning policies, and all those other things Al Quaeda despise exactly as much as yourself, and for the exact (well, almost exact. Their holy book's written in squiggles) same reasons.
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is one of the defining parameters of the devil that he always fails?
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I look forward to your reply Johnny.
I don't understand why he has to. If you're going to assert the bible is inerrant you should be attempting to make the case in some way here. Which you haven't.
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I look forward to your reply Johnny.
I don't understand why he has to. If you're going to assert the bible is inerrant you should be attempting to make the case in some way here. Which you haven't.
Not really, all he has to do is point to the bible and say --> inerrant. It would be nice if BJ defined what he means by inerrant though, more than once have I attacked this standpoint only to find that the working definition of inerrant is "very nice".
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The Bible has been copied many times, and even after all these times the Bible still is the Word of God that is infallible and inerrant.
Which version?
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Also if Johnny would read history he would see that MANY MANY attempts have been made to destroy the Bible, but God allowed his holy word to survive.
Is every book that survives burnings and bannings and such protected by God?
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[QUOTE=Bible John;4735351]

Josh McDowell, The New Evidence that demands a verdict, pp.4-18[/U][/B]

What new evidence?

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Reasons why the Bible is a unique book

1. In its Continuity
What does that mean?
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2. In its circulation
Because people saw a reason to circulate it (e.g. to increase their powers over other peoples)? Because Western Civilization spread to America for reasons unrelated to the Bible story.
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3. In its translation

Because people saw reasons to circulate it.
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4. In its survival
Because people saw teasons to circulate it.
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5. In its Teachings
Because people saw reasons to circulate these teachings and claim that they were unique to Christianity although they clearly weren't.
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6. In its influence on civilization.
Because people saw reasons to spread their civilization and realised Christianity would be an appropriate vehicule to do this?
Because 'the Bible' was used from (almost) the beginning by civilizations that saw it as their prime reason to exist that they could be spread over as many regions as possible. Does the word 'imperialism' mean anything to you?
The Bible was used by the Roman emperors, by medieval kings and by modern? 'presidents' to increase their power over the peoples they conquered.
The only book that I know of that was used (or abused) for approximately the same reasons was the Qu'ran, with a comparable success rate.

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The Bible has survived throughout time, long before computers and the printing press. The Bible has been copied many times, and even after all these times the Bible still is the Word of God that is infallible and inerrant.
Because people in order to obtain the result they wished (see above) used whatever means available to them?

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If Johnny Skeptic would do some research he would discover that OTHER ancient writings of the same time period do not have as much manuscript evidence to support them than the Bible does.
Because of the reasons stated above?

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Also if Johnny would do some research on Biblical scholar John Lea and read this book called The Greatest Book in the World he would see far more support for the scriptures than that of Shakespeare's works.
Because Shakespeare never tried to present his fictional work as non-fiction?

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Also if Johnny would read history he would see that MANY MANY attempts have been made to destroy the Bible, but God allowed his holy word to survive.
Or people realised that without the Bible they were not able to make people swallow their 'beliefs'?

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The devil and his servants have not given up on their attempts to destroy the word of God, and even after so many attempts to destroy it failed, today the devil is using his own Al-Qaeda whom have invaded the church to destroy the word of God. Many of these Al-Qaeda do not teach the Bible, and so the flock in these churches, cannot discern, since they do not read the word.
Maybe because 'the word' does not exist and there are as many 'Christianities 'as there are 'Christians'?

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The devil will once again fail.
Who the hell is the devil?

And after all these years, shouldn't he have been defeated ? Yet he always manages to come back?
How is that possible? If John would do some research on that, he might come up with an answer.

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I find it interesting BJohn that you bolded "In it's translation".

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Which version?
Indeed. Is it Unicorns, Wild Oxen, or Buffaloe?
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Reasons why the Bible is a unique book

1. In its Continuity
2. In its circulation
3. In its translation
4. In its survival
5. In its Teachings
6. In its influence on civilization

Can anyone explain what is meant by continuity? I see more contradictions in this book than a coherent behaviour of this god.

The other 5 points quoted above apply as much to the Koran and other holy books.

Biblejohn, why would a god even write such a book and take a thousand years to do so and entrust it to a small jewish tribe and then let them take another 2000 years to get the message to the rest of the world. Stranger even the fact that these jewish people don't accept the most important part as far as Christians are concerned.

It would appear more logical to believe that Satan wrote the book to give Christians a base to fight ever since about the meaning of this book.
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