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Old 09-08-2006, 03:12 PM   #131
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When the Lord divided up mankind into nations, he gave each nation their own land as their inherritance.
He set boundries for them according to the number of the fathers of the nations.
Jesus Christ chose for his own allotment the people of NewIsrael. NewIsrael is his chosen portion and inherritance.


In this case, The Lord and Jesus Christ are one and the same.
Another problem with this is that now you have to invent a second apology for the similarities to Psalm 82. Like I said before, Psalm 82 appears to be “undoing” what Deuteronomy 32:8-9 is “doing.”

Taken together these two sections tell the story of how El divided up humanity into nations, and assigned his sons to guard over them. Over time the sons became fuck-ups, and another god (the single “judging Elohim” of Ps 82:1) stepped in to make things right. The “judging Elohim” condems the sons to die like mortals (this would include Yahweh), and then “inherits all the nations” (same language from Deut 32:8) himself.

Duh .. how bout dat.
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Old 09-08-2006, 03:34 PM   #132
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Mark S. Smith's web site (a much better source)

Most of the things I’ve mentioned in this thread can be found in Smith’s books.
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Most of the things I’ve mentioned in this thread can be found in Smith’s books.
I was wondering about that since I have The Early History of God (or via: amazon.co.uk). I better start reading it lol!
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Early History of God - Preface to the Second Edition
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Old 09-08-2006, 05:24 PM   #135
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My interpretation is consistent with the monotheistic view of the God of Israel, as he is portrayed throughout the OT.
I realize that your interpretation is consistent with your prior-held conclusion but whether the god of Israel is consistently portrayed as singular throughout the Hebrew Scriptures is the question at hand. What you describe above is useless circular reasoning.

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It is based on the context of the OT, the book of Deuteronomy, the fact that it's written in poetic form suggesting an illustration.
The first is far too vague to be of any use to you, you need to establish why a different author's statements should be understood as relevant in understanding the text-in-question, and the form doesn't appear to change the plain meaning of the contents.

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Here's a comparison in response to the Billy/Big Chief comparison....just to restate my interpretation.(this is just a comparison to respond to your Big Chief comparison, not to be taken literally, please.)

When the Lord divided up mankind into nations, he gave each nation their own land as their inherritance.
He set boundries for them according to the number of the fathers of the nations.
Jesus Christ chose for his own allotment the people of NewIsrael. NewIsrael is his chosen portion and inherritance.


In this case, The Lord and Jesus Christ are one and the same.
This is an entirely inadequate attempt since, quite unlike either the original passage or my own, the text includes indications within the passage that "the Lord" and "Jesus Christ" should be understood as the same individual (ie "chose for his own" and "his chosen portion"). Do you really not see that what you have created contains precisely what is missing in the original passage?
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