skepticgirl

Assuming Jesus existed, is there evidence in the bible that he thought he was God incarnate? Did he say so?

Osbert

For Christians much has been made of the symbolism that Jesus entered Jerusalem, "thy King... lowly, and riding upon a colt the foal of an ass" (as prophesied in Zechariah 9:9). It was a sign that the Lord had come down to meet men on the plane of natural understanding in patience and humility.
This was no ordinary day despite the coming of the passover week, Jesus was to announce the ultimate challenge, the son of man was to proclaim that he was the true messiah, the king coming to conquer. In the Old Testament a colt was a noble animal, it was used for service and to carry the burdens of men; perhaps more importantly, it was used by kings. When they entered a city in peace, they rode a colt to symbolize their peaceful intentions.

Malachi151

Mark 10:
17As Jesus started on his way, a man ran up to him and fell on his knees before him. "Good teacher," he asked, "what must I do to inherit eternal life?"

18"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good—except God alone.

Mark12:
35While Jesus was teaching in the temple courts, he asked, "How is it that the teachers of the law say that the Christ is the son of David? 36David himself, speaking by the Holy Spirit, declared:
" 'The Lord said to my Lord:
"Sit at my right hand until I put your enemies under your feet."
'37David himself calls him 'Lord.' How then can he be his son?"
The large crowd listened to him with delight.

Mark 13:
32"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 33Be on guard! Be alert! You do not know when that time will come. 34It's like a man going away: He leaves his house and puts his servants in charge, each with his assigned task, and tells the one at the door to keep watch.

mattikake

Didn't Jesus only directly refer to himself as god "I", only after his resurection? And all other cases previous are only implications/indirectly?

Roller

It is telling that some older manuscripts omit "nor the Son" part.

Mageth

Jesus was not identified as "God" in Matthew, Mark, or Luke. Only in the later gospel of John did he become identified as/with "God".

It appears Jesus became (or came to be interpreted as) God/God's son over time.

gnosis92

and some new ones

gnosis92

xians believe the whole bible is inspired and paul speaks of x as having fullness of deity, as god,

Mageth

So?

Source (book/chapter/verse), please.

Steven Avery

Colossians 2:9
For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness:
God was manifest in the flesh,
justified in the Spirit,
seen of angels,
preached unto the Gentiles,
believed on in the world,
received up into glory.

Colossians 1:19
For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell

Philippians 2:5-7
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Who, being in the form of God,
thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
But made himself of no reputation,
and took upon him the form of a servant,
and was made in the likeness of men:

There are alexandrian corruptions in the Timothy and Philippians verses.
The one in Timothy weakens the Deity of Messiah in perhaps
the single most powerful Messiah verse in the NT.

Shalom,
Steven Avery
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Messianic_Apologetic