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Old 03-04-2004, 09:14 PM   #1
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Default Mary's House

Given the popularity of Mel Gibson's movie I thought some of you
might be interested in this. There is alledged archeological
evidence for at least one of Anne Catherine Emmerich's visions
(the same nun from which Mel Gibson got some of his material).
I find it highly suspect. But other than saying that it seems
unlikely I have no effective counter-argument to this. I will
repost below what was sent to me.

Brian M. Dean

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Here is a fabulous and extraordinary story of the archaeological
discoveries that support the revelations of 19th Century mystic and
stigmatic Anne Catherine Emmerich, whose visions formed the basis of
Mel Gobson's film, The Passion of the Christ!

MARY'S HOUSE

The extraordinary story behind the discovery of the house where the
Virgin Mary lived and died

In the closing years of the nineteenth century, the Aegean coast of
Turkey witnessed three of the greatest archaeological finds of all
time. The discovery of Ephesus and Troy made international headlines
overnight. But the third - an unassuming stone house in an isolated
forest ?was immediately enveloped in secrecy.

On a remote mountainside overlooking Ephesus and the Aegean, a small
stone house nestles among the pines and plane trees. It is as
unprepossessing as it is inconspicuous, yet every year over a million
people from all over the world come to visit it and drink from the
spring that runs underneath it.

But what is it about the place that attracts so many visitors? The
fact that this is almost certainly where the Virgin Mary spent her
last days.

The very last mention of Mary in the Bible states that
the Apostle John "took her unto his home" - and it is known that St
John himself went to Ephesus. And in the fourth century, at a time
when a church could only be dedicated to a saint if the holy person
had actually lived there, the first church to be dedicated to the
Virgin Mary was in Ephesus.

Still, no one followed up these clues until 1881, when a Parisian
priest, Abb?Julien Gouyet, came upon an obscure volume, The Life of
the Holy Virgin, which recorded verbatim the visions of a bedridden
German nun and stigmatic, Sister Anne Catherine Emmerich, who had
died in 1824. In these visions, Sister Emmerich described in
considerable detail the house where Mary died, as well as its
location near Ephesus.

Enthralled by the book, Fr Gouyet took it upon himself to go to
Ephesus to see if he could find the house simply by following the
nun's directions...

for the complete story join my Dolourous Passion of the Christ group
at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dolorouspassion/

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Old 03-04-2004, 09:33 PM   #2
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"most certainly?"

Did they find a deed or something?

Remember Glastonbury:

Not only does it have Joseph of Arimethia's Staff transformed into a tree . . . okay . . . a cutting from the tree. . .

Not only does it have a Chalice Well. . . .

Not only does it have reference to Merlin. . . .

It has the graves of Arthur and Genievere!

--J.D.
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Mel Gobson? I like that.


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Why is this in the least trustworthy? A mentally deranged anti-Semitic nun in the 19th century hallucinates about a house where Mary lived and ascended to heaven, some true believers find something that they think fits the description.
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Was it found on a toilet?

Then you know it is authetic . . . look for that "American Standard" seal of approval!

Look for
The toilet label,
When you are buying a ossary, or shroud!

Remember somewhere,
The dealer's forging,
A way showing,
All your beliefs are true!

And remember how he works hard,
For museum budgets he's draining,
A when police come knocking,
He's denying.

So remember, look for the toilet label. . . .!


--J.D.
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Well, it does sound like a shithouse to me..

Does the 'general public' know that Mr. Gobson have made his film based partly on that halucinating nun?

Btw, it doesn't seem to be that popular here in northen Europe. We mostly get newsbits 'bout how nuts the US fundies are behaving in regard to 'The Passion'... :banghead:

It's certainly not percieved as 'historical' .. and 'Life of Brian' is hard to find in any Blockbuster these dayz
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Why is this in the least trustworthy? A mentally deranged anti-Semitic nun in the 19th century hallucinates
There's the problem. Nun's [females] must bewail the victory of the cross with an increasing vegeance in a direct relation to the suffering of 'their' Jesus . . . who was never theirs but just their example-to-follow and this very well leaves them stranded as a mystic forever to be shunned forever.
 
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The Life of Brian IS historical!!!

--J. "Jehovah! Jehovah!" D.

P.S. To answer your question, yes the news has reported that he "took some details" from the vision of the nutcase, but it is not given its full import. Those looking for validation of their beliefs do not care. Facts never ever got in the way for them.
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. . . who was never theirs but just their example-to-follow and this very well leaves them stranded as a mystic forever to be shunned forever.
I should have added that this includes all enriched believers to that same degree they are enriched and that is why he is popular today in N.America.
 
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I'm moving this to GRD...

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