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Old 04-27-2004, 09:07 AM   #1
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Default Prophecy...are these strong examples?

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[Why You Can Trust Bible Prophecy]

[Appeared in The Watchtower July 15, 1999]

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Mon Chi Chi,

Please demonstrate that any of these supposed prophecies were written *before* the events that they supposedly predicted.

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[Appeared in The Watchtower July 15, 1999]
Thanks for giving the source. But instead of quoting the whole article, a summary of the main points and this link would have been sufficient.

And the answer of Gooch's dad is entirely sufficient to refute the whole article...
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Are you saying there is no existing evidence that the time the gospels were written is accurate?
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Are you saying there is no existing evidence that the time the gospels were written is accurate?
You got it. Though most of the examples are from the Hebrew bible rather than the nt, is there any way to know historically that those texts were written before the event? Sorry, no. We mainly talk here of the nt and the total lack of concrete evidence for when those texts were written, but much of the same logic applies to dating the Hebrew bible. There is even a nice Latin term for "prophecy after the fact", vaticinium ex eventu.

At the same time various prophecies are so general and not time related that they could be claimed to still be about to happen and you get fruit cake evangelists predicting events that don't happen or claiming some prophecy has just been fulfilled.

You need to know the history of the period when the prophecy was written in order to judge the veracity of the prophecy. If you look at the book of Daniel, it seems that the book was written around 500 BCE, talking about Nebuchadnezzar, Darius the Mede, Cyrus, etc., but close inspection shows that it was written in around 165 BCE. It's no wonder that the text talks about the fall of Babylon.


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