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Old 06-05-2005, 05:31 AM   #1
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Default Synoptic priority, Q, gThomas and Marcion

This has been bugging me. Googling I either get nothing (too narrow) or gobs (which much has been interesting but not what I want. Searching here I can't find anything. This is a plea for help with keywords, sites, whatever you can do, or any speculation you may want to share.

I once came across a Q website that let you line up all five Gospels (I think) and see it for yourself. I am interested if any speculation on source-hypothesis has tried to fit in Marcion's Evangelicium (sp?). What does this do for dating? Was Marcion using Ur-Lukas or Proto-Mark, neither or both? What other source material would he have to be using as he wrote it (assuming later interpolation as opposed to him being a major redactor)?

In short, would anyone care to share a quick source-hypothesis which includes Marcion, and possibly some author's names or terms for googling this?
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I once came across a Q website that let you line up all five Gospels (I think) and see it for yourself. I am interested if any speculation on source-hypothesis has tried to fit in Marcion's Evangelicium (sp?). What does this do for dating? Was Marcion using Ur-Lukas or Proto-Mark, neither or both? What other source material would he have to be using as he wrote it (assuming later interpolation as opposed to him being a major redactor)?

In short, would anyone care to share a quick source-hypothesis which includes Marcion, and possibly some author's names or terms for googling this?
Unfortunately, there has not been a lot of good work on Marcion's gospel for a long time, especially with regard to its literary relationships with the canonical gospels -- with the exception of Hermann Detering who works from a radical critical perspective. John Knox (1942) is perhaps the last major mainstream scholar to be really provocative about Marcion.
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Unfortunately, there has not been a lot of good work on Marcion's gospel for a long time, especially with regard to its literary relationships with the canonical gospels -- with the exception of Hermann Detering who works from a radical critical perspective. John Knox (1942) is perhaps the last major mainstream scholar to be really provocative about Marcion.
Thanks for the keyword. I already became intrigued with Deterings link between Perigrinus Proteus and Marcion. The addition of Knox is a great help. I understand that there is no English version of VonHarnack's recreation? As a language dullard (English, a little Russian and a tiny amount of Tex-Mex Spanish), I am against a wall.
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There are a couple articles by P. L. Couchoud and Alfred Loisy (in English) in the Hibbert Journal that I've been meaning to track down, which deal with the very subject of the OP (synoptic problem and Marcion).

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Thank you Peter!

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