spamandham

What on earth are you ranting about? :huh:

IamJoseph

There were no Monotheists in Europe - divine man was no problem in this neck of the woods. The greatest defense for the right to freedom of belief - is a debt owed to the Jews alone.

premjan

The Jews didn't do anything to Rome other than give it Christianity, which did believe in at least one divine man.

IamJoseph

There was a holocaust in 70 CE. Over a million [or prorata 20M today] sacrificed themselves rather than bow to a depraved Roman image. It is not even mentioned in the Roman Gospels - as if they had something more imporatant to write.

IamJoseph

The Greeks gave Christianity, thinking Judaism was dead. That was an error.

premjan

Did they really think Judaism was dead? That was only Israel.

IamJoseph

Israel lives. Rome is dead. Shame on Europe for glorifying a depraved power as an enlightenment.

premjan

Well, Rome was probably copying Alexander. His empire died a quick death too. Then there was the Holy Roman empire, and finally the colonial powers. Temporal power does come and go.

storytime

Well Joseph, here's another nail in your coffin. Jews were forced to believe until Paul. Paul pulled a sect of fearful Jews out of Judaism to begin a new religion. In this new religion Jews were not forced to be circumcised at eight days old, not observe every minute detail of Moses laws and be put to death for offending in the slightest. Paul provided a way to escape the most horrific religion on the planet in those days, Judaism. And Christianity succeeding and left the uncivilized Jewish tradition of "death by law" and useless animal sacrifices behind. That was progress Joseph, and what the Jewish hiarchy fought against. If it had not been for Rome's destruction of Jerusalem and the pushing of Jews into a more civilized existance, the Jews of today would still be stuck in that backward, useless tradition. Of course before Rome came on the scene, and back further in Jewish history, there were many many Jews who escaped from Judaism and melted into the world of Gentiles. Even back then in those ancient days, there were some Jews who decided enough was enough of that Jewish BS. What does it tell you Joseph when your own people leave Judaism because they see no benefit in its death cult supplied by its Hebrew God? (I'm assuming you're Jewish and and a proponent of a "Jewish state".)

storytime

The death-to-Jews brigade? There is no such thing Joseph, and you're merely trying to insight violence via your propaganda. Instead of striving for peace with the Iranians (assuming they are whom you're talking about), you strive for war via America's alliance with Israel. Then you could shift the blame and say "this is America's war" just as Nutenyahu said about Bush's invading Iraq.

In my opinion Joseph, if you want Muslims dead, then you go do it yourself and don't expect me or my family to volunteer to do your dirty work for you. Besides, I'm anti-war and know that people seeking peaceful relations can have those peaceful relations without killing people who are of a different religion.

You can stop with your self serving halocaust routine because you've worn it out already and to many people have died because of religious supernatural beliefs. You have no room to put Jews on a shelf like trophy's to use in your bragging rights.