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Old 09-24-2009, 01:57 PM   #1
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The centre of the universe, the place of Christ dying ascending and returning.

The crux of the Abrahamic religions (until Mecca and Rome).

But maybe it is all part of the propaganda to fix this ethereal Christ somewhere.

Maybe the destruction of the temple is not that important to xianity.

Maybe the xianities are gnostic judaic mystery religions all over the place that were later forced together and the ones that did not fit called heresies?

Jerusalem is also one of the articles of faith, a theological position.
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CHAPTER XXXIII: How the Church of our Saviour, the New Jerusalem prophesied of in Scripture, was built.


This was the emperor's letter; and his directions were at once carried into effect. Accordingly, on the very spot which witnessed the Saviour's sufferings, a new Jerusalem was constructed, over against the one so celebrated of old, which, since the foul stain of guilt brought on it by the murder of the Lord, had experienced the last extremity of desolation, the effect of Divine judgment on its impious people.

It was opposite this city that the emperor now began to rear a monument to the Saviour's victory over death, with rich and lavish magnificence. And it may be that this was that second and new Jerusalem spoken of in the predictions of the prophets, (1) concerning which such abundant testimony is given in the divinely inspired records.
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CHAPTER XXXIII: How the Church of our Saviour, the New Jerusalem prophesied of in Scripture, was built.


This was the emperor's letter; and his directions were at once carried into effect. Accordingly, on the very spot which witnessed the Saviour's sufferings, a new Jerusalem was constructed, over against the one so celebrated of old, which, since the foul stain of guilt brought on it by the murder of the Lord, had experienced the last extremity of desolation, the effect of Divine judgment on its impious people.

It was opposite this city that the emperor now began to rear a monument to the Saviour's victory over death, with rich and lavish magnificence. And it may be that this was that second and new Jerusalem spoken of in the predictions of the prophets, (1) concerning which such abundant testimony is given in the divinely inspired records.
chapter 33 of what? - source info?
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Is google broken?
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So lets see - whenever someone quotes something we just leave everyone to find the source by googling now?

I guess this is the new standard - must remember to live up to the new standard.
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The centre of the universe, the place of Christ dying ascending and returning.

The crux of the Abrahamic religions (until Mecca and Rome).

But maybe it is all part of the propaganda to fix this ethereal Christ somewhere.

Maybe the destruction of the temple is not that important to xianity.

Maybe the xianities are gnostic judaic mystery religions all over the place that were later forced together and the ones that did not fit called heresies?

Jerusalem is also one of the articles of faith, a theological position.
I wonder about the idealism of the exilic prophets, some of whom may never have actually set foot in Judah. Ezekiel and Deutero-Isaiah take off on poetic descriptions of Zion and the future kingdom of God, but maybe their residence in Babylonia heightened the tendency to romanticize the land of their fathers. Haggai and Zechariah seem to be of the same mind; maybe they spent their time in exile immersed in the Hebrew literature and brought this enthusiasm with them back to Jerusalem as the second temple was being founded.

By the time we get to the reports of Ezra and Nehemiah the people seem to be in a deep funk. The inspired visions of the 6th C seem unreal in comparison, and Jerusalem little more than a second-rate provincial capital.
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