Toto

sotto voce - get a grip. There is something about this topic that has affected you. Is this a key to your theology?

stephan huller

No, I am wrong. Jerome addresses 'pope Chromatius' in one letter apparently a bishop of Aquileia

stephan huller

This topic? Any reference to things Catholic brings out the beast in this guy.

sotto voce

What see of Jerusalem?

stephan huller

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriarch_of_Jerusalem

sotto voce

Is this a place of scholarship, or one for silly or tasteless jokes?

Anglicans admit that the word 'see' has no theological validity, is entirely man-made, and is used by them for practical purposes only. Moreover, they obviously make no greater importance of their Jerusalem see than that of any in England, Africa or elsewhere. Of course, those we know as real Christians do not have 'sees'.

So the question remains. One will search Acts in vain for the word 'see', or any word or construction that could conceivably be used to justify it, in Jerusalem, Rome or anywhere else. As we should know here, the word is justified only from civil administration of the Roman Empire; from invasion of 'the unwashed', of totalitarian politics, light years from the intention of the whole Bible, from start to finish. There can be no 'popes', because there is nowhere for a pope to be. (Even if such an obvious invention as a pope was to try to work his way into a church. Whosoever promotes himself, thereby excludes himself, in considerable embarrassment.)

Huon

"pope" means "father". It is NOT a hierarchical title, as it is for the bishop of Rome. In the greek christian church, and also in the Russian orthodox church, it is only a sign of politeness.

The russian name "Popov" signifies that the person has an ancestor who was married before being ordained a priest. A married man cannot be a bishop.

stephan huller

Actually I think pappas means grandfather.

Huon

pappas : daddy
pappos : grandfather

sotto voce

True.

What happens when a person becomes a Christian, that gives him or her a father?

What is so dangerous about Christians who have no earthly father? Or are such people not Christians?