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number3 · 11-09-2003, 03:09 AM

I wonder what God was thinking when he handed out the methods of pro-creation to animals.

Imagine dogs came first.....

GOD: Ok you can do it doggy style.
DOGS: We know we made it up.

then cats.......

GOD: You too can do it 'doggy-style'
CATS: What about 'catty-style'?
GOD: No you do it doggy style I'm afraid
CATS: How come we don't get our own style?

Then finally the humble salmon........

GOD: Right I want you lot to swim up the river, leap over rocks and when you finally get to the top you'll lays eggs and die. HOw's that sound?
SALMON: Can't we do doggy style?

offa · 11-09-2003, 04:37 AM

the animals in genesis and jubilees were human. It was a caste system. There was a tribe called swine and eating is having sex. The Hebrews were not allowed to eat swine ... their delicacy was sheep.

The old shepherd was flying his sheep to Texas when his plane ran out of fuel. The pilot remarked that they were going to crash land.

Old Shepherd, "What about the sheep?"
Pilot, "F*$k the sheep!"
Old Shepherd, "Think we got time?"

CourtJester · 11-09-2003, 10:25 AM

You mention the dogs having the "style"? but were the dogs the first to be gifted with the style? Weren't humans the first to be placed on this earth, so Adam would have surely taken Eve in a manner prone to that of the dogs but God may have merely named it after the dogs....rather than "adam style" (for example)

Which brings me nicely on to the point about interfamily sexual relations! How did the worldly population copulate with their own family? Yet certain religions that continue this practise are frowned upon? Surely they are only continuing the way that the good Lord has shown us from the start.

number3 · 11-09-2003, 10:28 AM

Incest and single race worlds/ideals are doomed from the start. Its simple genetics.

Spread you genes apart and you'll have clever kids.

Sleep with your mum and you'll end up with the British Royal Family.

example?

Prince Charles.

Quote from PC: (on speaking to a man on one of his tours): What is it that you do?

Man: I'm a plumber.

PC: What on earth is one of those?

You see my point.

CourtJester · 11-09-2003, 10:50 AM

At what step does interfamily sexual relations become acceptable though? Surely morally we are all related to each other?

Also, has there ever been in history another recorded immaculate conception? And how are we to believe that Mary wasn't sleeping with the local milkman? Was Joseph of dark skin origin? What made Mary the prime choice? Why was she choosen? Was she a believer in God before this conception? How did she know to trust this deity into becoming the bearer of "his" child?

Toto · 11-09-2003, 11:28 AM

No Bibilical Criticism or History here. Off to ~~~Elsewhere~~~

JEST2ASK · 11-09-2003, 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by CourtJester
You mention the dogs having the "style"? but were the dogs the first to be gifted with the style? Weren't humans the first to be placed on this earth, so Adam would have surely taken Eve in a manner prone to that of the dogs but God may have merely named it after the dogs....rather than "adam style" (for example)

Which brings me nicely on to the point about interfamily sexual relations! How did the worldly population copulate with their own family? Yet certain religions that continue this practise are frowned upon? Surely they are only continuing the way that the good Lord has shown us from the start.

According to some Christians there was no death before the explusion from the garden so there was no reproduction ....
also note in one version of the creation story Eve was made from the rib of Adam so does that impy not incest but that their off spring were the result of asexual reproduction of some sort.

Looking over the biblical account I also raise the question of (Genesis 4 :1) exactly what help did "the Lord" provide in the birth of Cain? Hmmmm ... maybe Mary was not the first .....
Oh and Welcome Courtjester ...

CourtJester · 11-16-2003, 11:13 PM

Asexual brings with it even more confusion:

In asexual reproduction, one individual produces offspring that are genetically identical to itself

"genetically identical"!! Now would that not be along the lines of cloning? Also did Eve look like a bloke? Did this asexual reproduction continue? Which leads you on to why do we have genitals/doggy style etc, if we were supposed to reproduce asexually? I'm sure many a woman would do anything to avoid giving birth (images of a melon through the eye of a needle!! OUCH!) And if we have evolved to be able to procreate like the animals do, but originated from asexual reproduction, then why is it that only women carry the babies?

Thanks for welcome Jest2ask

11-09-2003, 03:09 AM	#1
number3 Regular Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sverige Posts: 201	Pro-creation in animals... I wonder what God was thinking when he handed out the methods of pro-creation to animals. Imagine dogs came first..... GOD: Ok you can do it doggy style. DOGS: We know we made it up. then cats....... GOD: You too can do it 'doggy-style' CATS: What about 'catty-style'? GOD: No you do it doggy style I'm afraid CATS: How come we don't get our own style? Then finally the humble salmon........ GOD: Right I want you lot to swim up the river, leap over rocks and when you finally get to the top you'll lays eggs and die. HOw's that sound? SALMON: Can't we do doggy style?

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11-09-2003, 04:37 AM	#2
offa Regular Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Monroeville, Ohio, USA Posts: 440	the animals in genesis and jubilees were human. It was a caste system. There was a tribe called swine and eating is having sex. The Hebrews were not allowed to eat swine ... their delicacy was sheep. The old shepherd was flying his sheep to Texas when his plane ran out of fuel. The pilot remarked that they were going to crash land. Old Shepherd, "What about the sheep?" Pilot, "F*$k the sheep!" Old Shepherd, "Think we got time?"

11-09-2003, 10:25 AM	#3
CourtJester Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: England Posts: 33	You mention the dogs having the "style"? but were the dogs the first to be gifted with the style? Weren't humans the first to be placed on this earth, so Adam would have surely taken Eve in a manner prone to that of the dogs but God may have merely named it after the dogs....rather than "adam style" (for example) Which brings me nicely on to the point about interfamily sexual relations! How did the worldly population copulate with their own family? Yet certain religions that continue this practise are frowned upon? Surely they are only continuing the way that the good Lord has shown us from the start.

11-09-2003, 10:28 AM	#4
number3 Regular Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sverige Posts: 201	Incest and single race worlds/ideals are doomed from the start. Its simple genetics. Spread you genes apart and you'll have clever kids. Sleep with your mum and you'll end up with the British Royal Family. example? Prince Charles. Quote from PC: (on speaking to a man on one of his tours): What is it that you do? Man: I'm a plumber. PC: What on earth is one of those? You see my point.

11-09-2003, 10:50 AM	#5
CourtJester Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: England Posts: 33	At what step does interfamily sexual relations become acceptable though? Surely morally we are all related to each other? Also, has there ever been in history another recorded immaculate conception? And how are we to believe that Mary wasn't sleeping with the local milkman? Was Joseph of dark skin origin? What made Mary the prime choice? Why was she choosen? Was she a believer in God before this conception? How did she know to trust this deity into becoming the bearer of "his" child?

11-09-2003, 11:28 AM	#6
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	No Bibilical Criticism or History here. Off to ~~~Elsewhere~~~

11-16-2003, 11:13 PM	#8
CourtJester Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: England Posts: 33	Asexual brings with it even more confusion: In asexual reproduction, one individual produces offspring that are genetically identical to itself "genetically identical"!! Now would that not be along the lines of cloning? Also did Eve look like a bloke? Did this asexual reproduction continue? Which leads you on to why do we have genitals/doggy style etc, if we were supposed to reproduce asexually? I'm sure many a woman would do anything to avoid giving birth (images of a melon through the eye of a needle!! OUCH!) And if we have evolved to be able to procreate like the animals do, but originated from asexual reproduction, then why is it that only women carry the babies? Thanks for welcome Jest2ask

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