Apikorus

We have Egyptian documentation of the Hyksos invasion and rule over lower Egypt. The Hebrew Bible itself describes vividly the fall of the northern kingdom to the Assyrians and the fall of Jerusalem to the Babylonians. I could go on...

Diogenes the Cynic

Talk about assuming your own conclusion. :rolling:
Look, another straw man!

What "position" is required for me to be able to tell you what the archaeological evidence is? It doesn't require a PhD to know what has NOT been found in Egypt or the Sinai. What is your evidence for the presence of the Israelites in either of those places. It's your assertion that they were there, your burden to prove it.
Nope. You're welcome to ask it, but it's not very meaningful.
No, sober archaeology.

Diogenes the Cynic

Excellent points- especially on the Hyksos invasion and occupation. Now THAT was the most humbling and traumatic defeat in Egyptian history.

Minnesota Joe

I'm afraid I don't care. I responded to your claim that the silence actually supports the Exodus.

pharoah

Perhaps some Christian divers could retreive the remnants of the 600 chariots that should be at the bottom of the Red Sea, unless of course Satan stole the evidence....

Duncan Abercrombie

The parting of the Red Sea is rather more than simply losing a battle. Surely it is so miraculous that the Egytians would mention it even if Pharoah lost face over it?


I fail to see this proves anything...it could be simply a made-up story.

Dunc

River

The real problem is that the REAL Mt.Sinai is located

somewhere in Saudi Arabia ( not in Sinai). This is supported by two different

groups of archaeologists (i.e Humphrey, and Ryatt) as well as from the

Bible itself which states "sinai of arabia". Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)

also states that he was a prophet like Moses (pbuh).


This explains

the lack of a record in Egypt.


-River

Paul2

Hey quick question: How is loosing 400 jewish slaves the greatest defeat of all time in egypt? Would a Pharoh actually give a shit about 400 slaves? Maybe. Would he care enough to write it down? Maybe, maybe not. He'd probably find another 400 slaves somewhere else to finish the job the jews ran off on. Anyway, 400 jewish slaves would have left some sort of a history that could be traced in egypt, yet there is none. Why is that?

Apikorus

From the Mesha stele:

And I made this high place for Kemosh in Qarhar . . . because of the deliverance of Mesha, and because he has saved me from all the kings and because he caused me to see [my desire] upon all who hated me. Omri, king of Israel -- he oppressed Moab many days, because Chemosh was angry with his land.

Manetho (quoted by Josephus) on the Hyksos:

"By main force they easily seized it without striking a blow; and having overpowered the rulers of the land, they hen burned our cities ruthlessly, razed to the ground the temples of gods...Finally, they appointed as king one of their number whose name was Salitis."

Inscription of Queen Hatshepsut (XVIII dynasty):

Since the Asiatics were in Avaris of the north land, and the barbarians were among them, destroying buildings, while they governed, not knowing Ra.

darstec

Yes but those were just wars. Those nations were not quite as embarassing as Moses who drowned Pharoh's entire army.
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