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Old 03-10-2004, 03:38 PM   #1
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Default A quick contradiction in Jesus's teachings

Alright, picture this.

Jesus said that the only commandment is to love thy neighbor as you love yourself. Assuming we interperet "neighbor" broadly, I love my wife as I love myself. I also love my neighbor and my neighbor's wife as I love myself. Therefore, by identity, I love my neighbor's wife as I love my wife.

BOOM! I'm guilty of adultary as per Jesus's exhortation in Matthew that even thinking about another woman in a sexual way is the same as adultary. But if I love my neighbor's wife as I love my wife (since I love them both as I love myself), how can I *not* look at her in a sexual way? Perhaps I shouldn't even be looking at my wife sexually?
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You should love your neighbhor as you love a sibling. Do you love your sister or brother in a sexual way?
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Old 03-10-2004, 03:52 PM   #3
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What's worse is that the OT warns us not to covet or neighbor's
"wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass." Think about that one for a bit...
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Old 03-10-2004, 03:56 PM   #4
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Unfortunately the contradiction is invalid because you have misinterpreted the word "love". Love and lust are two entirely different things, especially where the Bible is concerned. The love that Jesus refers to is "Agape" love which is unconditional, sacrificial and tied up in action and not emotion. It is an act of the will not of feeling (though agape is not devoid of feeling).
The love you refer to is "Eros" which is a sexual love. I don't think that Jesus' words were intended to provoke people into "Eros"ing themselves as you would your neighbour's wife!
Also, to take your "logic" a step further, would you also love your neighbour's husband that way too?!
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Interpretation of the Bible is more appropriate for BC&H...

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Hmmmm...so far I have yet to see any contradictions in the teachings of Jesus! You are going to have to do better than that!
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nor his ass.
Wht if its a nice ass? Is it okay then? I like nice asses. Can you at least pet your neighbor's ass?
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Hmmmm...so far I have yet to see any contradictions in the teachings of Jesus! You are going to have to do better than that!
I see many contradictions between what Jesus actually said (that makes him unique among wisdom teachers) and that which was put into his mouth by later evangelists.

Of course, I get to make those distinctions. And aren't conjectures on Jesus merely looking at one's own reflection in the water of a deep well?
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[If] I love my neighbor's wife as I love my wife (since I love them both as I love myself), how can I *not* look at her in a sexual way?
Do you look at yourself in a sexual way?
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Hmmmm...so far I have yet to see any contradictions in the teachings of Jesus! You are going to have to do better than that!
You want to see contradictions? OK, let's go (all emphasis mine):

1 John 2:9-12
Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates his brother is still in the darkness. Whoever loves his brother lives in the light, and there is nothing in him to make him stumble. But whoever hates his brother is in the darkness and walks around in the darkness; he does not know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded him.

1 John 3:15
Anyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life in him.

versus

Luke 14:26
"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters--yes, even his own life--he cannot be my disciple." [Jesus speaking]

Combining Luke 14:26 with 1 John 3:15, we see that one has to be a murderer to be Jesus disciple. Which is, BTW, a nice contradiction to Exodus 20:13 "You shall not murder." (directly out of your cherished 10 commandments)
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