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Old 11-14-2003, 10:06 AM   #31
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Light - I am divorced, do not see the son of God in myself, and do not believe in God, so I guess I fail your tests, and my life is not modeled on ancient Egyptian archetypes, alas for me.

It sounds like you are a mythcist of a sort.
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My brother was telling me about this book yesterday and how he thought I would like it. Apparently my mother, who is a devout evangelical protestant and married to a deacon, liked it so much she is presenting it at her book club. Now I'm really curious.
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Light - I am divorced, do not see the son of God in myself, and do not believe in God, so I guess I fail your tests, and my life is not modeled on ancient Egyptian archetypes, alas for me.

It sounds like you are a mythcist of a sort.
My Father was a Protestant, even though this "holy father" thinks that he is my father. (Fool)

I am Freethinking but I do know that the belief system which indicated how God works is based on Egypt.

God was here then too.

Omnipresence = Always present, all the time.

Of course God is the Father of us all.

But that has been obvious from the beginnings of time.
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Vermes doesn't address it in Jesus the Jew. That doesn't seem very encouraging.
While it continues to be true that Vermes makes no reference to the story I mentioned from John, I finally got around to checking what he has to say about Jesus being married. He seems to consider it to be likely that Jesus was celibate.

Vermes notes:
"...traditions surviving in rabbinic literature which imply an incompatibility between prophecy and marriage." (Jesus the Jew, pg 100)

Apparently, the Jewish "prohibition" against a celibate rabbi was a late development. Of the authors of rabbinic literature, Vermes says they:
"...were convinced that prophecy belonged to the past, prophetic abstinence from sex was for them a purely academic question; their own religious duty was marriage for the purpose of procreating children." (pg 101)

So there no longer appears to be any compelling reason to assume Jesus was married but, on the bright side, there is a chance you will become psychic if you can't get any action.
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If you study Matthew 23:27 http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mat/Mat023.html

You will see that Christ tried to point out what it was that these Priests and Rabbis were doing wrong.

Christ is based on Osiris. But the story has become inverted.

Osiris loved Isis as Man and Wife. The better model of this is the more scientific one of Shu-Tefnut.

Osiris-Isis is the Earthly pair and Shu-Tefnut is the Heavenly Pair.

Shu-Tefnut is the true Male-Female Eternal Marriage bond displayed in the ORIGINAL Trinity of Egypt, which is where your present belief has been adapted and corrupted, by JEALOUS celibate priests.

So you are ABSOLUTELY right about the true motives of priests.

These priests are SUPPOSED to be the SERVANTS of man and their Leadership and are NOT supposed to work against them by flooding the world with poverty and ignorance which only causes crime.

The TRUE image of Christ is that of a ONE Child family, as this is the BEST way to avoid plunging the World into poverty. He should have found his brothers in the men around Him but instead they crucified Him. Crucifiction is a crime too, and so is murder.

These priests thrive on poverty because a rich man will not put much into the collection plate and the poor think that they depend on the church for their salvation having been brainwashed into thinking so.

A LARGE number of poor people will put more money into the collection plate and so immense churches are built filled with MANY people so that these priests may get RICH at YOUR expense.

Ask yourself this.

If YOU were a god (Shu) and Tefnut was your goddess, what would YOU need a priest for?

So. Is it the Chalice from the Palace which has the brew that is true and the Vessel with the pestle that is filled with poison?

Better ask Lucretia Borgia.
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JP Holding takes on the DaVinci Code

He cites an interesting ChristianThinkTank article on Was Jesus Married which argues against the idea that Jesus had to have been married because that was required of all Jewish males.
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There is a Higher state of belief than any religion. Implicit belief.

Once you realise that it can ONLY be God that has Created you and accept it as fact then you can believe without formal religion.

But then you MUST accept the word of God as verbatim.
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I am Freethinking but I do know that the belief system which indicated how God works is based on Egypt.
I'm assuming this acknowledgement makes you less conservative than most. I haven't found many people to accept this, so it's different if someone does. Is there the proverbial "one way" to God, in your opinion?
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JP Holding takes on the DaVinci Code

He cites an interesting ChristianThinkTank article on Was Jesus Married which argues against the idea that Jesus had to have been married because that was required of all Jewish males.
Based on my knowledge of that chucklehead, I'm going to guess it is only a coincidence that he got this point correct.
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Based on my knowledge of that chucklehead, I'm going to guess it is only a coincidence that he got this point correct.
This is not just the reserve of Jewish males. Christ is a Christian message concerning homelessness of the poor.

Christ was born in a stable because the Inn of the wealthy was full.

Instead of being loved by His brothers and sisters they made a mockery of Him and crucified Him even that HE loved them and had come to save them and their immortal souls.

Instead of this idea of Brotherhood amongst men these hol(e) broth-ers made a broth, and these supermen sold soup in a flying brothel.

An IS-RA-EL(ite) is one who recognises the question Is RA El ? This is the secret question. Do you recognise that it is GOD Who has Created you and do you realise that God, RA is also known as El Shaddaï or The Almighty?

Why is this happening in the hol(e) land?

Because the Sea of Galilee equates with one hole and the Dead Sea equates with the other hole when you regard religion from the point of view of these imbecile hol(e)y men who play with your love-life, and who live for free as parasites on the people whom they prey on.

Galilee = Sodom and The Dead Sea = Gomorrah.

A (female) crotch for the masses of the poor. Or poor man's hole-i-ness. A flying hol(e) pimps sheep-fleecing slaughter house.

Or Monty Python's Fying Circus run by the Papal Spanish inquisition, its quiz masters and it quizlings AGAINST the BEST interests of The State and its people.

Government of the people, BY the People FOR the People and NOT by this hol(e) dictator.
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