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Old 01-20-2006, 07:26 PM   #1
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Default What Hellenic Philosophy Does Paul Know?

This is for information purposes. Which passages in the Pauline canon (here, I'm specifically looking at Romans, I & II Corinthians, Galatians, and I Thessalonians). I thought Doherty and Don were arguing with Neo-Platonic concepts in mind, but Carrier informed me that it's actually Aristotelian Stoicism (excepting II Cor. 5 which "embraces Orphic theology"). What passages indicate Paul's close familiarity and usage of AS? If you disagree and think that it's NP instead, please let me know you're showing me that as well. Thank you all.
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To clarify, Carrier informed me that it's an eclectic philosophy taking some from Stoicism and some from Aristotelian thought. Sorry for the confusion.

So again, what Hellenic thought does Paul show affinity with?
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Have you seen this?:

Stoic elements in Pauline and patristic thought
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It doesn't really deal with the issue. It only devoted a short paragraph on Paul, and part of it Paul from Acts, which is a big no-no. I don't think that Acts has any authentic Paul in it at all.
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This is for information purposes. Which passages in the Pauline canon (here, I'm specifically looking at Romans, I & II Corinthians, Galatians, and I Thessalonians). I thought Doherty and Don were arguing with Neo-Platonic concepts in mind, but Carrier informed me that it's actually Aristotelian Stoicism (excepting II Cor. 5 which "embraces Orphic theology"). What passages indicate Paul's close familiarity and usage of AS? If you disagree and think that it's NP instead, please let me know you're showing me that as well. Thank you all.
There is such an overlap that I don't think you can really answer whether the thinking is Aristotelian, Middle Platonism or even Neoplatonism (though the last isn't really dated until Plotinus in the 3rd C CE).
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There is such an overlap that I don't think you can really answer whether the thinking is Aristotelian, Middle Platonism or even Neoplatonism (though the last isn't really dated until Plotinus in the 3rd C CE).
That's fine. But more importantly is where in Paul do these philosophies show through?
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I thought I had included a second link to this book on Amazon but apparently I hallucinated it:

Paul and the Stoics

I think it might be searchable if you sign in as a registered user.
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