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Old 09-22-2004, 08:21 AM   #31
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In defense of my argument, i was not really trying to prove that God was, in fact, omniscient, I was merely presenting a form of argument that was not circular. ie. that did not presume omniscience in a premise. My argument does not do this.
Unless you have changed the 3rd premise, the above statement is untrue. In that premise, you clearly assume the conclusion.

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4. It is a philosophical impossibility for God to lie.
I'm not sure what you mean by a "philosophical impossibility" but what you describe seems to me better described as a "theological impossibility". In other words, it cannot be possible because your beliefs about your god preclude it. Such an "impossibility" is limited to the context of those who share your beliefs and not apparent to those who do not. It is also more than somewhat circular.

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The garden of Eden is not an example! God said that they would die when they ate the fruit and they did - I don't think they're around today.
God said they would die the day they ate from the tree.

"and of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, thou dost not eat of it, for in the day of thine eating of it -- dying thou dost die.' "(Gen 2:17, YLT)
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