Originally Posted by aa5874

OK, so the people QUESTION the age of the Johanine Jesus.

They Believe he could NOT have seen Abraham.

Now what did the Johanine Jesus say to them???

Tell me maryhelena??? When did Abraham live in Hebrew Scripture ???

It is most remarkable how you IGNORE the very verse that gives the clue of the AGE of the Johanine Jesus from the supposed mouth of Jesus himself.

The Johanine Jesus was MORE than 50 years old.

The Johanine Jesus was FROM the Beginning--Before Abraham.

Originally Posted by Chili

Yes but Abraham was the transition from Abram to Abraham before he was 50 and so that was a mid-life event. The 'fullness of age' tells us that he had reached the end of his world wherein only days are counted and so became eternal as man [in the image of God], which is a clear 'meno-pauze' event during which Jesus is the transformer who gets zapped on the pole to knock his lights out forever, . . . even tho he had a life-line past Abraham past Adam to God wherein he was like the artificial light created only so we could see in the dark as strangers in exile until we reach the end of that world we chose to create for ourself.

Meno here means "I remain" as in I become eternal and no longer am countings my days" and so Jesus is the Ideal that translocates the placenta of man that Jesus first called Mary already then. Placenta here than is the nuclues of the atom that first conceived life and now is reborn in the human mind of the day.

I'd say 38 and maybe 42 when they crucified him.

Originally Posted by Chili

Yes but Abraham was the transition from Abram to Abraham before he was 50 and so that was a mid-life event. The 'fullness of age' tells us that he had reached the end of his world wherein only days are counted and so became eternal as man [in the image of God], which is a clear 'meno-pauze' event during which Jesus is the transformer who gets zapped on the pole to knock his lights out forever, . . . even tho he had a life-line past Abraham past Adam to God wherein he was like the artificial light created only so we could see in the dark as strangers in exile until we reach the end of that world we chose to create for ourself.

Meno here means "I remain" as in I become eternal and no longer am countings my days" and so Jesus is the Ideal that translocates the placenta of man that Jesus first called Mary already then. Placenta here than is the nuclues of the atom that first conceived life and now is reborn in the human mind of the day.

I'd say 38 and maybe 42 when they crucified him.

Originally Posted by Sheshbazzar

As I understand it, the Survey and OP is about the natural human age of Jebus when he was put to death by crucification as reported in the Gospels.
That is, the number of years that his human body had lived, counted from the year of his birth as reported in the Gospels, until the year of his death as is reported in these Gospels -including John (Jn 19:33, 20:9)

Attempted diversions into the theological crapola about his mythical alleged undying eternal nature are not at all germane to the subject of at what physical age he was put to death.

The Gospels all clearly and repeatedly state that he was put to death, did die, and was dead on the day he was crucified, and that he remained dead for a period of days.
His human life and age on earth consists of the number of years from the year of his natural human birth, to the year of his natural human death. Which is limited by the available information on the subject to less than 125 years.
(a lot of lunatic claims regarding him surviving the crucifixion and dying at a ripe old age have been made, so I am acknowledging and including the existence of these exaggerated figures)
No matter how many years his natural earthly life may have consisted of, they ended with him dying.

So lets get this thread back on its track by limiting the subject to how many years he walked on this earth in his human body before dying on Calvary, -or in India, China, Japan, America or someplace else. ;-)



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