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Old 05-02-2009, 03:37 AM   #11
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The accounts to destroy the testimony of the man raised at the Bonnke meeting are all criticisms and questions. . . No proofs to destroy the idea of it actually happening.
I'd like to invite Mr. Bonnke to present some good documentation of those people coming back to life -- and to threaten him with charges of fraud if he is unwilling to do so.
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Did any of these charlatans collect the $1 million from Randi? Why not?"

Who is Randi?
I know that a Charlatan is a (false expert) but I don't know Randi. . .

I don't claim to know anything. . . I am foolish, weak, base. . . Simple. . .

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Randi is a stage magician who, as a hobby, specializes in exposing frauds - primarily psychics. He has an outstanding offer to pay $1 million to anyone who can demonstrate any supernatural ability under controlled conditions. His money is safe: this is just a way of smoking out fraudsters who take money under false pretenses - such as Reinhard Bonnke.

You have posted some strong assertions for someone who claims not to know anything.
2 Corinthians 1:9 (KJV)
9 But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God which raiseth the dead:

There is a Tomb in a Garden of Rock that has Tulips and Lillies growing out of the sides of the mounding hollowed recess. This tomb is in eye sight of a hill that looks to the appearance like a skull - hence the name: "The place of the Skull" - also known as Calvary where my Lord was Crucified.
Above that Tomb is an inscribed plaque that makes a profound statement: "He is not here, He is Risen." It is an empty tomb. . .

The Jews know that according to their history Christ came, Died, and is Risen. . .
The Jewish leaders also bribed the soldiers to say that the body was stolen away. . . Which is an impossible scenerio. . .

In the Book of Acts, Simon the Sorcerer tried to purchase the GIFT of God and was cursed by Peter the Apostle. . . HE said, "Your Money parish with you." You can't buy a move of the Holy Ghost.
But watch that man "Randi" really closely. . . Because God will not be mocked:
He heals those who believe Him to heal them. . .He has miraculously healed me. I call it a miracle - But nothing is too hard for God. . .

There was a Rich man over in europe who said the bible would be extinct by the end of his own lifetime. . . After that mans death his own mansion became a bible printing company warehouse. . .
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I have a picture of that man standing with Rinhard Bonnke holding his death certificate. - This happened recently.
How did you verify the authenticity of that picture? Please be specific about the method you used.
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I have a picture of that man standing with Rinhard Bonnke holding his death certificate. - This happened recently.
How did you verify the authenticity of that picture? Please be specific about the method you used.
I Looked at it with my eyeballs. . . It sent a signal to my brain. . . And in turn my mental reasoning told me that this was a Picture. . .

No, now seriously, I burned the picture at the stake as a Heretic and a blasphemer. . .
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How did you verify the authenticity of that picture? Please be specific about the method you used.
I Looked at it with my eyeballs. . . It sent a signal to my brain. . . And in turn my mental reasoning told me that this was a Picture. . .

No, now seriously, I burned the picture at the stake as a Heretic and a blasphemer. . .

I've seen pictures of JFK and Elvis, supposedly taken of them on an island, long after their deaths. Using your standards of proof, they must be real too...

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I Looked at it with my eyeballs. . . It sent a signal to my brain. . . And in turn my mental reasoning told me that this was a Picture. . .

No, now seriously, I burned the picture at the stake as a Heretic and a blasphemer. . .

I've seen pictures of JFK and Elvis, supposedly taken of them on an island, long after their deaths. Using your standards of proof, they must be real too...

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That is silly. . .

My point is that the man is still alive to testify. . .
A point that I shouldn't need to make. . .
And that Bonkke who is reputed for being in Africa as an Evangelist to Africa had his picture taken with a man who was brought to Bonkke's meeting in a box. . .

The picture is of the man standing with Bonkke holding his death certificate. . .
What would I have to research to prove that the picture is real. . .

And all the evidence against it is speculation. . .
All the evidence in favor of the event is proven to be factual and only attacked by sceptics who have little proof against the fact of the occurance. . .

So you analyze the picture for me while I relax. . .
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There is an Assemblies of God preacher named Rinhard Bonnke who had an embalmed dead man brought to his crusade meeting. The dead man was declared dead by a mortition and had a bill declaring his death. I have a picture of that man standing with Rinhard Bonnke holding his death certificate. - This happened recently.
Morticians do not sign death cerificates. Besides, I have asked the Oracle to transport me to that event and through its power I saw the in the crystal the supposedly dead man smoke a cigarette before the show and chat with Rihhnard about suckers lapping it all up.

The fact of the matter is that the only guaranteed resurrections are through the Holy Name of Eli Lily.

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There was also a Penticostal Preacher Named Smith Wigglesworth from the early 1900's who walked into a Funeral Parlor and picked up the Corpse of a man and commanded the dead man to live again. . . This same man - saw many sick, lame, deaf, blind, and demonic possessed people set free, healed, and delivered by the power of God thru simple childlike faith in the name of Jesus Christ.
That's bugger all ! Eli Lily, through the Spirit of Fluoxetine, brought back Frank Zappa from the dead last year in Little Rock, Ark. and when people doubted it was the real Frank Zappa, the great musician pulled down his pants and shit on the stage.

That's real showmanship, man ! Not some dumbass twit doing twobit fakes for the Rural & Retarded.

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That is silly. . .
That your standards for credibility are so low? Agreed.

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My point is that the man is still alive to testify. . .
Your opponents' point is that you have no credible evidence he was ever actually dead. A "mortition" is not a doctor. Insufficiently trained people (and even some who are trained) mistakenly declare death. The claim that the man recovered from embalming is extreme, to say the least, and requires enormous credible support to lift it from the realm of pure fantasy in which it currently and correctly resides. The idea is, on its face, impossible. The human body cannot recover from having its blood drained and replaced with embalming fluid.

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And that Bonkke who is reputed for being in Africa as an Evangelist to Africa had his picture taken with a man who was brought to Bonkke's meeting in a box. . .
Unless only really, truly dead people can be brought in a box, this is less than sufficient to establish such a remarkable claim.

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The picture is of the man standing with Bonkke holding his death certificate. . .
And you consider a picture of a man holding what is claimed to be his death certificate to be sufficient for such a remarkable claim?

Would you think the same about an equally remarkable claim that contradicted your beliefs? I'm hoping you would expect significant evidence from highly credible sources. That's called a double standard, amigo.

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What would I have to research to prove that the picture is real. . .
Establishing the authenticity of the alleged death certificate would be a minimum.

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And all the evidence against it is speculation. . .
But that is because of the paucity of evidence for the claim!

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All the evidence in favor of the event is proven to be factual...
What evidence and how was it proven and by whom?

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and only attacked by sceptics who have little proof against the fact of the occurance. . .
A general knowledge of human physiology, chemistry, and physics are all that is necessary to require far more support than you've provided.

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So you analyze the picture for me while I relax. . .
Stop slacking and get to work supporting this ridiculous claim that you assert to be true!!!
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HE was Embalmed. . .

The doctor signed the death certificate. . .
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