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Potoooooooo · 01-01-2007, 11:06 AM

What are the general opinions among the scholarly community of the history section this site and the claims made therein http://www.bede.org.uk/historyindex.htm

Chris Weimer · 01-01-2007, 11:57 AM

Does Bede still frequent here?

Clivedurdle · 01-01-2007, 12:16 PM

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The conflict hypothesis began as part of the reaction against religion in the nineteenth century with the work of John William Draper and Andrew Dickson White. Despite the fact that it is utterly rejected by all practising historians of science, it lives on in the popular imagination and is incredibly hard to kill off. This article examines some common misconceptions and exposes White's errors and omissions.

Funny how people saw conflict well before the nineteenth century, Hume, Erasmus Darwin, Gibbon, .....

Talking of practising historians of science, does Lisa Jardine count?

http://www.livesandletters.ac.uk/contacts/lisa.html

Toto · 01-01-2007, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Potoooooooo

What are the general opinions among the scholarly community of the history section this site and the claims made therein http://www.bede.org.uk/historyindex.htm

Bede has posted here in the past, and has found lots of objections to his work.

"Bede" is a pseudonym for a graduate student in history, training to be a professional. He evidently felt that his Christian apologetics would not get him very far in his profession.

I think Bede is reasonably careful with his facts. His interpretations are, of course, subject to contention. I find his attempts to justify the Inquisition a bit off putting.

Potoooooooo · 01-01-2007, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Toto

Bede has posted here in the past, and has found lots of objections to his work.

do any specifics come to mind?

EverLastingGodStopper · 01-01-2007, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Weimer

Does Bede still frequent here?

I think it should be mentioned that since he's registered here, Bede is protected from insults and such, under the IIDB rules.

Potoooooooo · 01-01-2007, 04:41 PM

I don't thin anyone has insulted him on this thread? I was only asking about his statements and the soundness of his scholarship.I agree that crude insults have no place on this forum!

EverLastingGodStopper · 01-01-2007, 04:44 PM

A reminder not to insult is not an accusation. I just wanted to point it out, in case no one knew, that even a lurker who never posts is protected if registered.

Amaleq13 · 01-01-2007, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Potoooooooo

do any specifics come to mind?

I'm sure you will find examples in any of the 11 threads he started:

http://www.iidb.org/vbb/search.php?searchid=1439059

Toto · 01-01-2007, 06:18 PM

That search id is dead, but just go to the advanced search, and look for all threads started by Bede, or all posts if you prefer. There are also some very old threads in the archives on the Library of Alexandria.

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01-01-2007, 04:41 PM	#7
Potoooooooo Contributor Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: USA Posts: 13,541	I don't thin anyone has insulted him on this thread? I was only asking about his statements and the soundness of his scholarship.I agree that crude insults have no place on this forum!

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EverLastingGodStopper Banned Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 16,665	A reminder not to insult is not an accusation. I just wanted to point it out, in case no one knew, that even a lurker who never posts is protected if registered.

01-01-2007, 06:18 PM	#10
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	That search id is dead, but just go to the advanced search, and look for all threads started by Bede, or all posts if you prefer. There are also some very old threads in the archives on the Library of Alexandria.

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