Chili

It means 'going by intuition only' and would be opposite to "walking knee-deep throught stone" or something like "opstinate he stated 'the land is solid' and stamped, watching his foot sink down knee-deep in stone."

Chili

That is why it is called faith until it has been brought to understanding. Of course Kierkegaard did not quite do this but he had the right idea.

Steve Weiss

A bit cryptic to me. Please expand your point. What is being brought to understanding? And what do you mean by understanding.

Chili

"Correct opinion" is what is brought to "understanding." Correct opinion is ours by indoctrination which must be true so that it can be tied down in our soul where truth is real or at least connected to the infinite to allow for variance of expression.

Steve Weiss

Is there any point to this verbiage? Sounds like "1984" double-speak to me.

Chili

Nah, in the new heaven and new earth there is no sea left so we better get used to walking on water or we'll drown like witches.

Chili

Good point!:notworthy:

It is wrong to part the water to get to the promised land because once we get there we will be and remain lost until we die nonetheless (Jn.49,50 and 55).

To be able to walk on the water we must be born from the same water that we must learn to walk on and that is why Mary must be our mother to make us son of man with our own right to be (Gogol's "he has no equal, he is God)." To be able to walk on water we must be born from above instead of from below and that is explained in Jn.1:13 where the distinction is made between those who are born of God as opposed to those who are born of carnal desire, man's willing it or by blood and thus not of God.

Then if you go to Rev. 13 you will see that the first beast came from the water while the second beast came from the [old] earth and they will be those who must part the water to get into the promised land. Notice that the first beast will end up with the stigmata and spend only 40 months in what we call purgatory today.

The difference between parting the water and walking on the water is its origin for which the Annunciation is the necessary first cause.

In essence, the water that we will walk on is the dowry of Mary that was taken from us when we first parted company and left Eden alone. The most gorgeous poem on this is Ezra Pound's translation called "A River Merchant's Wife: A letter." Read it my friend and take it to heart.

Chili

Oops, that should say John 6:49,50 and 55, but I think everybody knows that the children of Israel failed to mature and died nonetheless as children of Israel (God). Everybody except Billy Graham and company, of course.

Agemegos

Indeed. That is what you get from Chili. And when you challenge it, you get more of the same.

Chili

Thanks Shesbazzar but I am just writing.

Rev.21:1 tells us that the New Heaven and New Earth replace the former heaven and earth and that sea is no longer (Rev.21:1). This clearly points at the transformation of our mind if heaven and earth can just pass away and be replaced by a new Heaven and Earth but this time without the sea, which before was that part of us that we did not know and therefore could not walk on and go by in our daily life. I call it our intuition, some call it our soul and here they call it the sea where knowlegde is tied down and retained for many generations wherefore the heavens were created in the plural so that the reign of God that is already in our midst can span up to one thousand years as the "Thousand Year Reing of God." So the reign of God is our very own lineage and contains the contributions made by our ancestors that come us as "Voices from the Graveyard" (Hardy) or intuit urges by which we are predestined (Deteminist). This would be why the lineage of Jesus in Luke came to him after the descend to the HS in the form of an inspired ramble that takes him past Abraham to God as opposed to the recorded lineage in Matthew that stopped at Abraham.

As an aside, this is where the Wedding in Cana of John is the flipside of the temptation is the desert that is presented by Matthew who, of course, was not invited there for the simple reason that 'the [generic] Jew' cannot enter the holy of holies where this royal banquet takes place .

The reason why it is called the sea here is so that we can come full circle with Gen.1 where water is retained in basins to give substance to light for the life of men . . . which heretofore was a formless wasteland with little or no substance to the light wherefore evening followed each day except later on the seventh day which is found in Gen.2 to give form to light as the essence of existence. Hence onmiscience is real and the light of common day is an illusion wherefore in the new Heaven and Earth the night shall be no more and the need for lamps shall be no longer (Rev.22:5). Peace of mind will be restored and the mighty wind no longer sweeps over the waters = from chaos to harmony in the mind of man for the simple reason that the two have become one and the woman that once was taken from man is now crowned queen of Heaven and Earth in the Coronation. That is why Mary is betrothed to us to convert heaven and earth into Heaven and Earth. (Mary is actually the River Merchant's wife and we are the river merchant, the narrows of Kiang is Advent and Cho-Fu-Sa is the Gate of Purgatory).

I would argue that there is no history in Gen.1 but I will agree that this beautiful story was written about 6000 years ago.