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mata leao · 01-01-2006, 11:12 AM

mountain man....all those thousands of hospitals,orphanages,feeding centers founded in the name of Jesus Christ and run an d funded and maintained by the followers of Jesus Christ will be testifying to Jesus' footprint on this planet long after mountain man is dead....no one will remember mountain man's name...... billlions will worship Jesus Christ. Get used to it! atheists have lost.

Toto · 01-01-2006, 12:27 PM

mata - by now you should now that none of those orphanages or hospitals testify to the existence of a first century crucified Jewish teacher, only to other people's desire to do good works (more likely not in his name but the name of some other believer or reputed saint.) And it would drag this even more off topic to ask about the sexual abuse committed in some of those orphanages, or the deaths associated with those hospitals without modern secular science, so please feel free to start another thread if you wish to pursue this line.

mata leao · 01-01-2006, 01:01 PM

toto i disagree....an institution is the lengthened shadow of one person.....

Diogenes the Cynic · 01-01-2006, 01:05 PM

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toto i disagree....an institution is the lengthened shadow of one person.....

Enough with the witnessing. It has nothing to do with this forum.

mata leao · 01-01-2006, 01:09 PM

apply the rukes to yourselves then, i havent seen any peer reviewed evidence here to support your position, just a lot of atheist "witnessing".....

Diogenes the Cynic · 01-01-2006, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mata leao

apply the rukes to yourselves then, i havent seen any peer reviewed evidence here to support your position, just a lot of atheist "witnessing".....

I'm not going to humor this kind of childish sniping. Stay on topic or find a different forum. This is an official warning.

DtC, Moderator, BC&H

mata leao · 01-01-2006, 01:28 PM

: the existence of Christianity and the fulfillment of the Great Commission is circumstantial evidence of the existence of the founder of Christianity, Jesus Christ. cause..causation. Death on a cross by crucifixion...causation...use of cross as a memorial to the one crucified.....cause and effect......

Diogenes the Cynic · 01-01-2006, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mata leao

: the existence of Christianity and the fulfillment of the Great Commission is circumstantial evidence of the existence of the founder of Christianity, Jesus Christ. cause..causation. Death on a cross by crucifixion...causation...use of cross as a memorial to the one crucified.....cause and effect......

Well, that's an argument of sorts but it's lame.

mata leao · 01-01-2006, 01:38 PM

is that an offcial warning of lameness? it isnt lame at all. Christianity rules the modern world. There is power behind Christianity, there is historical authenticity behind it, there is cultural superiority behind it, there is moral and practical superiority behind it, muchof the islamic,hindu,buudhist,primitve religionists live in medieval squalor and ignorance. The Christian West leads the world in universl suffrage, women's rights, rights of free people/democracy.Universal education including women, rights of prisoners and mentally ill, workers rights, health care, standard of living, etc. Its called cause and effect, look it up diogenes.....it is evidence, and it is admissible in court and in forensic debate competition and it is directly relavant to persuasive argument that Jesus Christ "existed"

Diogenes the Cynic · 01-01-2006, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mata leao

is that an offcial warning of lameness?

I wrote it in black so it only expressed my opinion as a poster. Anything I post officially as a mod is in blue.

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it isnt lame at all. Christianity rules the modern world. There is power behind Christianity, there is historical authenticity behind it, there is cultural superiority behind it, there is moral and practical superiority behind it, muchof the islamic,hindu,buudhist,primitve religionists live in medieval squalor and ignorance. The Christian West leads the world in universl suffrage, women's rights, rights of free people/democracy.Universal education including women, rights of prisoners and mentally ill, workers rights, health care, standard of living, etc. Its called cause and effect, look it up diogenes.....it is evidence, and it is admissible in court and in forensic debate competition and it is directly relavant to persuasive argument that Jesus Christ "existed"

There is a huge assortment of non-sequiturs and unsupported assertions in this paragraph. None of it is evidence and it certainly isn't "admissable in court." Lame.

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01-01-2006, 11:12 AM	#1
mata leao Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: tampa,florida Posts: 342	mountain man....all those thousands of hospitals,orphanages,feeding centers founded in the name of Jesus Christ and run an d funded and maintained by the followers of Jesus Christ will be testifying to Jesus' footprint on this planet long after mountain man is dead....no one will remember mountain man's name...... billlions will worship Jesus Christ. Get used to it! atheists have lost.

01-01-2006, 12:27 PM	#2
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	mata - by now you should now that none of those orphanages or hospitals testify to the existence of a first century crucified Jewish teacher, only to other people's desire to do good works (more likely not in his name but the name of some other believer or reputed saint.) And it would drag this even more off topic to ask about the sexual abuse committed in some of those orphanages, or the deaths associated with those hospitals without modern secular science, so please feel free to start another thread if you wish to pursue this line.

01-01-2006, 01:01 PM	#3
mata leao Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: tampa,florida Posts: 342	toto i disagree....an institution is the lengthened shadow of one person.....

01-01-2006, 01:09 PM	#5
mata leao Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: tampa,florida Posts: 342	apply the rukes to yourselves then, i havent seen any peer reviewed evidence here to support your position, just a lot of atheist "witnessing".....

01-01-2006, 01:28 PM	#7
mata leao Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: tampa,florida Posts: 342	: the existence of Christianity and the fulfillment of the Great Commission is circumstantial evidence of the existence of the founder of Christianity, Jesus Christ. cause..causation. Death on a cross by crucifixion...causation...use of cross as a memorial to the one crucified.....cause and effect......

01-01-2006, 01:38 PM	#9
mata leao Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: tampa,florida Posts: 342	is that an offcial warning of lameness? it isnt lame at all. Christianity rules the modern world. There is power behind Christianity, there is historical authenticity behind it, there is cultural superiority behind it, there is moral and practical superiority behind it, muchof the islamic,hindu,buudhist,primitve religionists live in medieval squalor and ignorance. The Christian West leads the world in universl suffrage, women's rights, rights of free people/democracy.Universal education including women, rights of prisoners and mentally ill, workers rights, health care, standard of living, etc. Its called cause and effect, look it up diogenes.....it is evidence, and it is admissible in court and in forensic debate competition and it is directly relavant to persuasive argument that Jesus Christ "existed"

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