Chili

It is a virgin birth and an immaculate conception to say that the virginity can be lost after conception wherefore Mary moved from Nazareth of Galilee to be sheltered in Judah in the comfort of Zachariah and her kins-woman Elizabeth

Chili

God was his father but he did not 'father' him.
Jesus had no human father to be without sin and the entire being of Mary was the true identity of God that was reborn in Joseph the [upright] Jew and Mary was betrothed to Joseph to be his true mind that he may know the depth width and breadth of the Lord his God as Lord and God wherefore Jesus could rightfully say "the father and I are one" but yet fully one until "it is finished."

jgibson000

:banghead:

JG

Chili

Here's another one for you :banghead:

gstafleu

And then of course it never finished, sic transit. Do you have verses to quote for the idea that Mary was the true identity of God, or is that a general interpretation?

Gerard Stafleu

Chili

Man was created in God's divine image and the woman was taken from man to be his dowry in betrothal upon his return to Eden. Until then he leaves his own lineage in search for power wealth and beauty to be added to the richess that he left behind when he parted company with his own mind wherein he was created as the image of God. So here he follows Eve, or who later becomes know as Eve, who therefore is the mother of all the living as distinct of creation.

I don't know how general it is but Mary is our seat of wisdom and home of the HS which descended instead of just fying the coop . . . after which Jesus had full knowledge of his lineage right back to God (past Abraham past and Adam to God).