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The wonderful Roger Pearse has a wonderful website called tertullian.net which has all the texts of Tertullian available on it. I happened to have been working on a post at my blog with this very material so I can cite chapter 48 of de Resurrectione Carnis right now:
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But that the term παραλαμβανω can be argued to have been added to Catholic version of the text to open the door to the fact that he received something from Peter and the rest of the Church (= Acts). I am not sure spin would agree with my construction of how the term got there. But the implication seems to me at least that the term was added to leave the door open at least to the idea that he learned something from the other apostles. In other words to nullify the radical 'lone wolf' scenario cultivated by Marcionitism. |
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Stephan, I thought that this had been pointed out a while ago, on the initial thread about 1 Cor 15. Perhaps I am mistaken.
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I'm puzzled (again!). That particular verse doesn't appear to be saying he didn't get 'it' from men.
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The author of Acts DEVOTED over 15 chapters to the EXPEDITIONS and EXPLOITS of Paul. Acts of the Apostles is an EXTREMELY critical book since it was Canonised and deemed to be AUTHENTIC. The author of Acts CLAIMED that he TRAVELED with Paul ALL OVER the Roman Empire. No other author has even claimed to have TRAVELED with Jesus Christ in the NT Canon but the author of gLuke is a supposed WITNESS of the historicity of "Paul". Why does "Paul" NEED Acts if Acts is NOT credible? What does it benefit the Christian Faith to CANONIZE KNOWN Fiction? The answer is CLEAR. Acts of the Apostles and the Pauline writings are NOT history. There is NO true history of "Paul" just the FICTION found in Acts of the Apostles and the very Pauline epistles. |
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The author of Acts DEVOTED over 15 chapters to the EXPEDITIONS and EXPLOITS of Paul. Acts of the Apostles is an EXTREMELY critical book since it was Canonised and deemed to be AUTHENTIC. The author of Acts CLAIMED that he TRAVELED with Paul ALL OVER the Roman Empire. No other author has even claimed to have TRAVELED with Jesus Christ in the NT Canon but the author of gLuke is a supposed WITNESS of the historicity of "Paul". Why does "Paul" NEED Acts if Acts is NOT credible? What does it benefit the Christian Faith to CANONIZE KNOWN Fiction? The answer is CLEAR. Acts of the Apostles and the Pauline writings are NOT history. There is NO true history of "Paul" just the FICTION found in Acts of the Apostles and the very Pauline epistles. |
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Thanks Stephen. Though at first glance, this doesn't appear to be the bit dealing with 'receive' (or its absence from a verse). I'm at work, and may have to look at Tertullian Against Marcion 3.8 later (that was the one I was interested in, your second quote, about verse 3. Perhaps I should have made this more clear). I don't expect people to spoon feed me. Unless they're happy to. |
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I don't recall it. Though I could equally be mistaken. I recall Stephen saying something about Marcion, and my asking for more detail, so maybe that was what we recall? I am certainly interested.
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