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Mech Bliss · 07-28-2008, 02:29 PM

It's always interesting watching a person who knows essentially nothing about geology act as if they are some grand authority on it, not only compared with other posters on this forum, but with respect to the scientific community at large.

ConservativeAtheist · 07-28-2008, 02:58 PM

Oh, my...what can I say? I'm speechless at all of the brainwashed idiocy of the OP...

The Greeks had books that explained the universe also...why don't you believe in Zeus?

I'm just glad to know that the Grand Canyon...one of the most amazing natural phenomenon on Earth was formed in 40 days by the flood that killed every living thing on the Earth...4000 years ago. :huh: My only question is where are all of the fossilized remains of the millions (or billions) of sinners that were drowned by the flood? If there are fossilized trees, then surely the flood would have preserved the bodies of those diabolical sinners. My next question would be how do you explain the dinosaurs? Oh, that's right...those fossils are the work of the devil to fool us. Sorry. :blush:

dimbulb · 07-28-2008, 03:45 PM

40 days of rain, 100 feet of rain per day(far more than has ever been seen in one day which about 6 feet) = water 4000 feet deep.

So how did all life get drowned? You'd be safe in Denver or anyplace that had a decent hill.

It is amazing that the ark could fly an additional few thousand feet to lodge itself where it can't be found on Mt. Ararat.

lpetrich · 07-28-2008, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bong_0000007

Which is it? God gave them advanced information, or let them discover it themselves? You really do have to pick one.
let them discover it themselves.There is reason from God why he do it but through his wisdom
Wisdommm..Seekkkk

Heads I win, tails you lose.

Any part that is convenient for bong_0000007, he claims that it is literal truth. While any part that is not, he claims that is it is figurative or metaphorical or allegorical or spiritual or whatever. All without justification.

And when the Bible seems to deliver for bong_0000007, he says about it "How nice that God has been willing to reveal it to us!" But when the Bible fails to deliver, he says "God intended for us to find that out for ourselves".

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Originally Posted by bong_0000007

A great flood doesn't explain how layers in the mud appear to be weathered. How layers in the mud have footprints. How layers were laid down vertically.
God caused terrible earth quakes at the time of pelegs.JOB,ISAiAH,PROVERBS,PSALM told about earth quakes.

Genesis 10:25 ("the earth was divided") is too vague about that event to say very much about it. My guess is that it refers to different people dividing up the land among themselves, judging from its repopulating-the-Earth context.

bong_0000007 · 07-30-2008, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ConservativeAtheist

Oh, my...what can I say? I'm speechless at all of the brainwashed idiocy of the OP...

The Greeks had books that explained the universe also...why don't you believe in Zeus?

I'm just glad to know that the Grand Canyon...one of the most amazing natural phenomenon on Earth was formed in 40 days by the flood that killed every living thing on the Earth...4000 years ago. :huh: My only question is where are all of the fossilized remains of the millions (or billions) of sinners that were drowned by the flood? If there are fossilized trees, then surely the flood would have preserved the bodies of those diabolical sinners. My next question would be how do you explain the dinosaurs? Oh, that's right...those fossils are the work of the devil to fool us. Sorry. :blush:

Did you saw flat plains?civilization before was between two mountains or lower areas but as the mud flood came, the city was covered.The lower areas was contained by mud and it leveled to become flat plain
http://biblicalsciencewisdom.blogspot.com/.

Keith&Co. · 07-30-2008, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by bong_0000007

Did you saw flat plains?civilization before was between two mountains or lower areas but as the mud flood came, the city was covered.The lower areas was contained by mud and it leveled to become flat plain

THE city? What city?

And please answer:

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As for the Grand Canyon, how does rapidly moving water carve something that meanders like this?

Rapidly??? No, a rain for for 40 days and night could make it.

For 40 days/nights of rain to carve the grand canyon, wouldn't the earth it's carved out of have to have been laid down BEFORE the Rain started to fall?
Meaning that the strata were in place before the Flood, not laid down by it.

bong_0000007 · 07-30-2008, 06:11 AM

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http://biblicalsciencewisdom.blogspot.com/

Sorry ,cities and civilization.

bong_0000007 · 07-30-2008, 06:18 AM

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For 40 days/nights of rain to carve the grand canyon, wouldn't the earth it's carved out of have to have been laid down BEFORE the Rain started to fall?
Meaning that the strata were in place before the Flood, not laid down by it.

Earthquake at pre Global flood time.Bible told earthquakes for many times repeatd,JOB,PSALMS,ISAIAH,who have wisdom about past events.They told a very strong earthquake.Every earthquake could make landslide,and make a layer or strata.

Keith&Co. · 07-30-2008, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by bong_0000007

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For 40 days/nights of rain to carve the grand canyon, wouldn't the earth it's carved out of have to have been laid down BEFORE the Rain started to fall?
Meaning that the strata were in place before the Flood, not laid down by it.

Earthquake at pre Global flood time.Bible told earthquakes for many times repeatd,JOB,PSALMS,ISAIAH,who have wisdom about past events.They told a very strong earthquake.Every earthquake could make landslide,and make a layer or strata.

Let's calibrate, here.
You said that the various layers of fossils and strata were laid down by the flood. You also said that the Grand Canyon was carved by the 40-days/nights of rain that started the flood.
There's a problem, there, that you have the rain carving a canyon in strata that you say haven't been laid down yet.

When were the layers of the geologic column laid down so that the Grand Canyon could be dug out in 40 days of rain?

And just out of curiosity, how long was the Flood?

bong_0000007 · 07-30-2008, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Keith&Co.

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Originally Posted by bong_0000007

Earthquake at pre Global flood time.Bible told earthquakes for many times repeatd,JOB,PSALMS,ISAIAH,who have wisdom about past events.They told a very strong earthquake.Every earthquake could make landslide,and make a layer or strata.

Let's calibrate, here.
You said that the various layers of fossils and strata were laid down by the flood. You also said that the Grand Canyon was carved by the 40-days/nights of rain that started the flood.
There's a problem, there, that you have the rain carving a canyon in strata that you say haven't been laid down yet.

When were the layers of the geologic column laid down so that the Grand Canyon could be dug out in 40 days of rain?

And just out of curiosity, how long was the Flood?

You said that the various layers of fossils and strata were laid down by the flood.
I don't say that.
And just out of curiosity, how long was the Flood?[/
40 days of rain,150 days water not receeded and another 150 days the rain slowly receeded.
From Second month of that year to the first monht of the next.

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07-28-2008, 02:29 PM	#71
Mech Bliss Veteran Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: A^2 Posts: 1,165	It's always interesting watching a person who knows essentially nothing about geology act as if they are some grand authority on it, not only compared with other posters on this forum, but with respect to the scientific community at large.

07-28-2008, 02:58 PM	#72
ConservativeAtheist Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Near the center of all confusion...DC Posts: 1,014	Oh, my...what can I say? I'm speechless at all of the brainwashed idiocy of the OP... The Greeks had books that explained the universe also...why don't you believe in Zeus? I'm just glad to know that the Grand Canyon...one of the most amazing natural phenomenon on Earth was formed in 40 days by the flood that killed every living thing on the Earth...4000 years ago. :huh: My only question is where are all of the fossilized remains of the millions (or billions) of sinners that were drowned by the flood? If there are fossilized trees, then surely the flood would have preserved the bodies of those diabolical sinners. My next question would be how do you explain the dinosaurs? Oh, that's right...those fossils are the work of the devil to fool us. Sorry. :blush:

07-28-2008, 03:45 PM	#73
dimbulb Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: SE U.S. Posts: 1,981	40 days of rain, 100 feet of rain per day(far more than has ever been seen in one day which about 6 feet) = water 4000 feet deep. So how did all life get drowned? You'd be safe in Denver or anyplace that had a decent hill. It is amazing that the ark could fly an additional few thousand feet to lodge itself where it can't be found on Mt. Ararat.

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