JoeWallack

JW:
There is a little known Early Christian Book, eH P's (Epiphanius) Lovingly crafted, Panarion, which is a collection of Ancient, Mysterious and Secret Christian rites preserved by Dark and Secluded Eldritch Church Elders. The Book is said to describe Magical chants and Incantations from time immemorial given to the first Christians by those beyond our Dimensions of Time and Space. In Order to help keep this Book secret Christianity has never made it freely available in English and the price to purchase it (in addition to your Immortal soul) is greater than barrels of oil.

This Thread will be Dedicated primarily to Revealing the Dark Secrets of the Panarion. As a warm up we will start with other extant and freely available writings of Epiphanius. Epiphanius lived in the 4th century and was a severe critic of fellow Christians. As the anonymous speaker said at the town hall meeting in Tuna, Texas, Epiphanius welcomed all orthodox Christians. As long as there were the right type of orthodox. And so, without further Adamieu, I present Epiphanius, Da Bishop of Salamis. Enjoy!:

http://www.voskrese.info/spl/XepifanySal.html

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf206.v.LI.html

JW:
Holy Mattiaoly Rocky. Origen, possibly the outstanding Christian Bible scholar of the early Church "transfers that which the Scripture mentions from earth to the heavenly places"? Does Mr. Doherty know this?



Joseph

HADES, n.
The lower world; the residence of departed spirits; the place where the dead live.

Among the ancients the idea of Hades was not synonymous with our Hell, many of the most respectable men of antiquity residing there in a very comfortable kind of way. Indeed, the Elysian Fields themselves were a part of Hades, though they have since been removed to Paris. When the Jacobean version of the New Testament was in process of evolution the pious and learned men engaged in the work insisted by a majority vote on translating the Greek word "Aides" as "Hell"; but a conscientious minority member secretly possessed himself of the record and struck out the objectional word wherever he could find it. At the next meeting, the Bishop of Salisbury, looking over the work, suddenly sprang to his feet and said with considerable excitement: "Gentlemen, somebody has been razing 'Hell' here!" Years afterward the good prelate's death was made sweet by the reflection that he had been the means (under Providence) of making an important, serviceable and immortal addition to the phraseology of the English tongue.

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Jeffrey Gibson

Said by whom?

Jeffrey

Roger Pearse

"Little known" may not be the right word for something that comes up with 22,400 hits on Google.

The work is a huge catalogue (two volumes in English) of heresies, and describes all sorts of weirdos, often in great detail. As such it is a valuable guide to many groups about whom we would otherwise know little.

Portions of the complete English translation by Frank Williams are available in English at Google books here. (I actually bought a copy of this).

There is a rather useless Wikipedia article on the Panarion, although it's mainly cribbed from the Catholic Encyclopedia. It also contains various erroneous or misleading statements; I've attempted to correct a couple.

It's a work that should be online. Sadly it was translated in 1994, which means that it will only come out of copyright long after all of us are dead.

Interestingly there are works by Epiphanius which have never been translated into English, such as three pamphlets on using images in church. I would imagine they could be translated for about $2,000 commercially, which really is not a lot.

All the best,

Roger Pearse

JoeWallack

JW:
Why don't you do a Survey of people as they walk out of Church and see how many of them have heard of Panarion? Even your friend, JP Holding, seems never to have heard of it:

http://www.tektonics.org/ntdocdef/markdef.html



Joseph

APOLOGIZE, v.i.
To lay the foundation for a future offence.

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Jeffrey Gibson

We could do the same thing with respect to the question of how many of these same people have heard of you and your "work".

But how well known the Panarion is among lay people is not the issue, is it. The issue is whether the Panarion is little known to/among Patristic scholars and professional historians of Christianity/Late Antiquity.

Have you done a survey of them?

Jeffrey

JoeWallack

JW:
There is a little known Early Christian Book, eH P's (Epiphanius) Lovingly crafted, Panarion, which is a collection of Ancient, Mysterious and Secret Christian rites preserved by Dark and Secluded Eldritch Church Elders. The Book is said to describe Magical chants and Incantations from time immemorial given to the first Christians by those beyond our Dimensions of Time and Space. In Order to help keep this Book secret Christianity has never made it freely available in English and the price to purchase it (in addition to your Immortal soul) is greater than barrels of oil.

This Thread will be Dedicated primarily to Revealing the Dark Secrets of the Panarion. Epiphanius lived in the 4th century and was a severe critic of fellow Christians. As the anonymous speaker said at the town hall meeting in Tuna, Texas, Epiphanius welcomed all orthodox Christians. As long as there were the right type of orthodox. Continuing our warm up with other extant and freely available writings of Epiphanius and without further Adamieu, I present once again Epiphanius, Da Bishop of Salamis. Enjoy!:

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf206.v.XCI.html


JW:
And so eH P (Epiphanius) Lovingly dispatches Origen, the outstanding Early Church Father and crucial missing link between pre and post "orthodox" Christianity to the Flames of Hell and by an Act of Providence we have preserved the First "Go to Hell & All the best" letter that we see so often on these Holy Boards.



Joseph

Church Tradition, v.
A Mysterious Entity that unlike Jesus who apparently was only able to Incarnate once, can be Incarnated repeatedly at an Apologist's whim to provide unimpeachable ancient testimony supporting Christian Assertians and than just as quickly disincarnate as only the opinion of men and not Scripture when it goes against Christian Assertian.

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gurugeorge

Ahem, and Epiphanius and the rest of the "orthodox" early Christians weren't weirdos?

Roger Pearse

Not even in the same league. Trust me on this.

All the best,

Roger Pearse

Yellum Notnef

Now there's a hard pill to swallow.

(I was wondering when someone was going to call Roger on his "weirdos" comment.)

gurugeorge

Yeah it speaks volumes doesn't it?