Dean Anderson

Most of the NT higher criticism that I have seen (and most of the discussion on this forum) seems to concentrate on the Gospels and the letters of Paul.

Can anybody recommend a good resouce that discusses Revelations?

A web reference would be best (because my wife will emasculate me if I buy any more books!) but I realise that web references aren't always as detailed as books, so both web and book references would be good...

Thanks in advance!

Peter Kirby

Bernard Muller has a nice web page on Daniel and Revelation.

best,
Peter Kirby

judge

Hi ...I would suggest you consider that the book is about things "that must shortly come to pass".
Revelation is about events that happened around 70 a.d. (not current day events)
This fact is clearly mentioned in the first couple of verses. You need someone to help you misunderstand this IMHO.

The book was written prior to 70 a.d.

http://www.preteristvision.org/quest...ationdate.html

http://www.preteristvision.org/quest....html#subhead1

CJD

Four main views:

http://www.graceonlinelibrary.org/full.asp?ID=635 (see also the menu on the right for parts 2 and 3) see also http://www.confessionallutherans.org/papers/revtoc.html

http://www.historicist.com/

http://www.preteristarchive.com/ (see menu to the left)

http://www.brethrenonline.org/dispens.htm

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http://www.knoxseminary.org/Prospect...ect/index.html (despite their conservative starting points, this site provides a somewhat different approach to the book of Revelation by treating it textually not as "apocalyptic literature" but as a Comedy in the classical sense)

Given the plethora of views out there, even the most thick-headed reader should see that unmerciful dogmatism regarding interpretations of Revelation is not plausible; but note also ought to be made that there are a few common themes throughout the book that the world-wide Christian Church (past and present) does agree upon.

Regards,

CJD

Vinnie

Just a nitpick FYI:

Revelation. Not Revelations

Peace,
Vinnie

Dean Anderson

Cheers for the links, guys.

Most of the links seem to be discussing how a Christian should interpret Revelation.

I was actually looking for something more along the lines of...

When was it written?

What do we know about 'John of Patmos'? Did he exist or was it a nom-de-plume?

Was it all written by the same author or do stylistic analyses show later additions/alterations/interpolations?

What other apocalyptic traditions does it borrow from?



Bernard Muller's page is the sort of stuff that I was after (Thanks again, Peter).

Anyone have any more references like that, so that I can compare them?

CX

Look up the Apocalypse in Schnelle's intro text. You can probably find it at a library if you don't already have it and aren't inclined to purchase it. (It's listed in the recommended reading of this forum)

{added} Just checked LT Johnson's intro and he has a rather lengthy section on revelation and it's relation to the other Johannine writings as well.

Bernard Muller

Thanks, PHF and you, Peter. I would be interested to see where "John" got some of his inspiration from (except the OT, or wine!). I know the passage about the woman & the flood has some likeness with a bit of Egyptian mythology.

Best regards, Bernard

judge

I think you will find most if not all of the imagery is used in the OT prohets.

For example the beast coming out of the sea...try Daniel.

The harlot...try Jeremiah or Ezekiel.

IOW to a first century jew these images would be seen to come from their sacred books.

Some may be astronomical
also.http://redbay.com/ekklesia/revsign.htm