number3

1:3-5 God creates light and separates light from darkness, and day from night, on the first day. Yet he didn't make the light producing objects (the sun and the stars) until the fourth day (1:14-19). And how could there be "the evening and the morning" on the first day if there was no sun to mark them?

Please someone explain this to me......

oldstudent

There are a few different theories (theistic) on this matter.
1. The light was the sun but it wasn't visible from earth until the 4th day.
2. The light wasn't the sun and the evening and morning are unrelated to our conception of time because we use the sun.
3. The evening and morning are not 24 hours in the creation account.
4. The account was revealed to man in 7 days, not that the creation was completed in 7 days.
Of course you have the theory that the creation account is fiction and all the above theories are just bunk. Although I disagree with this theory, it can be a theistic view as well as an atheistic viewpoint.
Does that clear it up for you??? LOL.


Jim

number3

A little. I never believed the NT anyway. Its too far-fetched. plus God is portrayed as an arsehole

For example:

1:3
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

1:4
And God saw the light, that it was good:

I mean there's pride in your work and there's arrogrance.

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2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground


Why would he do that? He had already created light from nothing, so why bother creating man from dust? Why not just create us? Sounds like a cheap trick to me!


2:22
And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.


Are you joking!!!! made from a rib - is the writer of this book on drugs!

number3

But by far the most ridiculous part of the bible is:
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3:14
And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:


So let me get this right. The snake (who incidently f**ked it up for everybody), its punishment was to walk on its belly all its life.

What sort of a bloody punishment is that? How many flying snakes do you know!
I bet the snake was gutted. Oh no god not on my belly please not. Plus it was a talking snake, sadly that breed has disapeared!!!!

Plus where was god when the snake was talking to eve????

oldstudent

First of all, the Genesis account is in the OT, not the NT. Secondly, I don't see where God looks like an ******* but that is your opinion and you are entitled to it.

Gen1: 3-4
If God created light from nothing then he isn't bragging is He? That would be a factual statement that He thought it was good. There is no egoism there. If I were to put together a really great dish of food and said it was good, that doesn't imply egoism, it can just mean I am acknowleding that it was good. Besides, God creating the universe from nothing is something beyond good, it is not even comprehensible from the human mind.
Gen 2:7
Why not is a better question really. That question is one of preference. I could just as easily say " Why didn't you make that rocking horse out of Ash instead of Oak?" That doesn't make the rocking horse inferior because you wonder why I made it out of one wood instead of another.
Gen 2:22
If God had already made the universe from nothing, then why not from a rib? Would it be impossible after making the universe? Just because you or I don't believe something doesn't make that something any more or less true.

Jim

number3

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God looks like an ******* - I'm proud of that quote, its almost a get into hell free card!

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Gen 2:7
Why not is a better question really. That question is one of preference. I could just as easily say " Why didn't you make that rocking horse out of Ash instead of Oak?" That doesn't make the rocking horse inferior because you wonder why I made it out of one wood instead of another.

no god is just being pathectic. He just doing it because he apparently can, he's just showing off. As above he doesn't need to. He could have created from nothing - so therefore he's just playing David Blane. It like me walking to the shops but then saying to my friends no I'm not going to walk I'm going to fly and do thirty sommersaults on the way. Why there's no need I could just walk, but no I'm showing off. Probably just wanted a book written about him. We can all do that, Tom Cruise does it everytime he makes a movie. I mean come on he's so so so desperate for an oscar.

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If God had already made the universe from nothing, then why not from a rib? Would it be impossible after making the universe?

Why not? because it's stupid and pointless that's why! he doesn't need to if he's all powerful as you say.

oldstudent

Well, your intelligent response is overwhelming!! LOL
I will now just ignore you because I only wish to 'discuss' with sopmeone who uses intelligence and some class.
Have a great day and I hope that you meet Christ before you die sir.



Jim

number3

Please don't insult me. My intelligence is not in question. You however need to ask your maker why he forgot to give you a sense of humour. You do reliase I'm not serious don't you? don't you? you don't.... oh dear looks like the tables have turned oldstudent. Perhaps a return to school is in order....

plus its unlikely I'll meet christ before I die, unless he's planning a comeback. Cool hopefully with the Doors, always wanted to see them live. If I do meet him I tell him you need a sense of humour and that I'm very cross his dad didn't sort you one. Naughty God! shame on you.

number3

1:4
And God saw the light, that it was good:

I mean there's pride in your work and there's arrogrance.


This was an early clue. but you fell hook line and sinker.....

Ad Astra

How is it that any light from the sun can take four days to reach Earth?

This doesn't seem to make any sense. Please elaborate.

Then how long were they?

Come again? I don't know about you, but I can see/figure things about without them having to be "revealed" to me. Please explain.