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Littlejohn · 09-24-2012, 02:30 AM

I was interested in viewing the work "A Dictionary of Christian Biography, Literature, Sects and Doctrines," published in 1887 by William Smith and Henry Wace. However, the version offered by http://www.archive.org/stream/adicti...ngoog_djvu.txt is, to say the least, pathetic ... Does anyone know if there are on the WEB digitized versions of the book that they are much better than the one above? ... Thanks!

Littlejohn S

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Littlejohn · 09-24-2012, 02:58 AM

The following is a short excerpt from the page mentioned in the previous post:

Quote:

from: http://www.archive.org/stream/adicti...ngoog_djvu.txt

ABBANU8 (St.), of Cill-Abbain, in Ui-

Muireadhoigh {co. Meath), and of Magh-Ar-
QUidhe in Ui-C«iaseallaigli (co. Wexford), Irish
abbats, in tlie SLb &ad $Ui centuries. The editor
of the life ia the Acta Sanctorum (Bruiellia,
1887, folio) nnravcls t^ie confusion which has
hitherto existed on the subject, by discriminating

tlie royal family of Leinster. The earlier must
be St. Abhin of Cill-Abb.ain, originnlly iuun«l
Bt^ith, Kon nf the sister of tit. Ibnr the eontem-
purary of St. Pntrlck in tlio 5th cGntary, aa<l
cDitiTiumuTikteil Id the Calrnitjim on the lOth of
Miirch. Of him nntliin); ci^rtalii Is known. Tin-
bitvr iiDi> Ih tlien St. Alikm ofMaKh-Arnuidhe, hud
i.f t1i» -iKt-r of St. Covmi.i'n, In tho Utii cniitiiry,
and mmmemorali'd on tho !i7lh of OclobiT.
Two LaIIu nnd two IrlHh liven have been prO'
.lerved, but »ll ba»ed upon one profeiwinK to have
buen written by a $!rent-i;mndson of one whom
St. Abbnn bad baptized. Twentj moiiaBteriei>
are mentioned na having been fnnnded by the
laiat, almost all in the southern half of Irclanil.
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Littlejohn

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Iskander · 09-24-2012, 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Littlejohn

The following is a short excerpt from the page mentioned in the previous post:

Quote:

from: http://www.archive.org/stream/adicti...ngoog_djvu.txt

ABBANU8 (St.), of Cill-Abbain, in Ui-

Muireadhoigh {co. Meath), and of Magh-Ar-
QUidhe in Ui-C«iaseallaigli (co. Wexford), Irish
abbats, in tlie SLb &ad $Ui centuries. The editor
of the life ia the Acta Sanctorum (Bruiellia,
1887, folio) nnravcls t^ie confusion which has
hitherto existed on the subject, by discriminating

tlie royal family of Leinster. The earlier must
be St. Abhin of Cill-Abb.ain, originnlly iuun«l
Bt^ith, Kon nf the sister of tit. Ibnr the eontem-
purary of St. Pntrlck in tlio 5th cGntary, aa<l
cDitiTiumuTikteil Id the Calrnitjim on the lOth of
Miirch. Of him nntliin); ci^rtalii Is known. Tin-
bitvr iiDi> Ih tlien St. Alikm ofMaKh-Arnuidhe, hud
i.f t1i» -iKt-r of St. Covmi.i'n, In tho Utii cniitiiry,
and mmmemorali'd on tho !i7lh of OclobiT.
Two LaIIu nnd two IrlHh liven have been prO'
.lerved, but »ll ba»ed upon one profeiwinK to have
buen written by a $!rent-i;mndson of one whom
St. Abbnn bad baptized. Twentj moiiaBteriei>
are mentioned na having been fnnnded by the
laiat, almost all in the southern half of Irclanil.
.

Littlejohn

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Have a look at this one.

A Dictionary of Christian Biography and Literature to the End of the Sixth Century A.D., with an Account of the Principal Sects and Heresies.
Wace, Henry (1836-1924)

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/wace/biodict

Description: This reference book is a valuable resource for teachers, students, pastors, and anyone interested in early Christian history. A heralded religious academic, Henry Wace attended King's College London and Oxford and served in many churches in his time, even becoming the Dean of Canterbury in 1903. His dictionary is a comprehensive compilation of over 800 important Christian characters, challengers, and literature. It features a complete overview of the major players of Christianity from its beginnings to the sixth century. The book also includes a profile of each of the major heresies and sects of Christianity though the ages and an analysis of the creeds and literature of the early church. Concise yet detailed, this dictionary is a natural choice for any book collection in need of a reliable review of Christian history.

or
http://www.ccel.org/index/title/D

Littlejohn · 09-24-2012, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Iskander

Have a look at this one.

A Dictionary of Christian Biography and Literature to the End of the Sixth Century A.D., with an Account of the Principal Sects and Heresies.
Wace, Henry (1836-1924)

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/wace/biodict

Description:
This reference book is a valuable resource for teachers, students, pastors, and anyone interested in early Christian history. A heralded religious academic, Henry Wace attended King's College London and Oxford and served in many churches in his time, even becoming the Dean of Canterbury in 1903. His dictionary is a comprehensive compilation of over 800 important Christian characters, challengers, and literature. It features a complete overview of the major players of Christianity from its beginnings to the sixth century. The book also includes a profile of each of the major heresies and sects of Christianity though the ages and an analysis of the creeds and literature of the early church. Concise yet detailed, this dictionary is a natural choice for any book collection in need of a reliable review of Christian history.

or
http://www.ccel.org/index/title/D
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Thank you, my friend!.. It is much useful.

It seems, apparently, it be the same text, but in a much more understandable version. However, it seems to me that in this version is missing some items, such, for example, the item Abdias ... The version that I referred to was published in 1882 by Sir William Smith. Would love to see even this version, as long as in a readable form!

Greetings

Littlejohn S

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Toto · 09-24-2012, 09:14 AM

Littlejohn: this text looks weird because it is based on an optical character recognition program that is not very good.

But archive.org has better versions. From your link, click on "See other formats" in the upper left. Then select "read online" or a pdf or an ebook format. You may not be able to copy the text - this is retyped

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ABBANUS (st.), of Cill-Abbain, in Ui-
Muireadhaigh (Co. Meath), and of Magh-Ar-
nuidhe in Ui-Ceinseallaigh (co. Wexford), Irish
abbats, in the 5th and 6th centuries. The editor
of the life in the Acts Sanctorum (Bruxellis,
1867, folio) unravels the confusion which has
hiterhto existed on the subject, by discriminating
bectween two saints of the same name, both of
the royal family of Leinster. ...

Littlejohn · 09-24-2012, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toto

Littlejohn: this text looks weird because it is based on an optical character recognition program that is not very good.

But archive.org has better versions. From your link, click on "See other formats" in the upper left. Then select "read online" or a pdf or an ebook format. You may not be able to copy the text - this is retyped

Quote:

ABBANUS (st.), of Cill-Abbain, in Ui-
Muireadhaigh (Co. Meath), and of Magh-Ar-
nuidhe in Ui-Ceinseallaigh (co. Wexford), Irish
abbats, in the 5th and 6th centuries. The editor
of the life in the Acts Sanctorum (Bruxellis,
1867, folio) unravels the confusion which has
hiterhto existed on the subject, by discriminating
bectween two saints of the same name, both of
the royal family of Leinster. ...
.

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Thanks Toto! ...

"..From your link, click on "See other formats" in the upper left..."

Yes, I had already experienced this opportunity. However, the link to the format 'Pdf' refers to the page http://books.google.it/books?id=pupd...-8&redir_esc=y , where you can't download any files 'Pdf'.

Concerning the version 'read online', it consists of pages photocopied and therefore not editable (very important feature for me, since I often have need to insert the material taken from books in my text files)

As a 'extrema ratio', I am reserved the possibility to edit the corrupted copies of 'full text' - because digitized with OCR programs not perfectly suitable - with the content of the photocopied pages. It is a laborious task; however will be limited only to the material that more interests me

Greetings

Littlejohn S

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DCHindley · 09-25-2012, 08:25 PM

There are actually 2 versions.

The original is Wm Smith & Henry Wace, A Dictionary of Christian biography, literature, sects and doctrines during the first eight centuries: being a continuation of 'The dictionary of the Bible' (four volumes with detailed articles on an astonishing range of individuals).

vol 1, A-D, 1877,

vol 2, Eaba - Hermocrates, 1880,

vol 3, Hermogenes - Myensis, 1882,

vol 4, N-Z, 1887

A second abridged version, Henry Wace, A dictionary of Christian biography and literature to the end of the sixth century A.D., with an account of the principal sects and heresies (single volume, 1911) is an abridgment that leaves out a good many authors in the earlier series with Smith. (Wace, Henry) Christian Bio & Lit to 6th Century (abridged 1 vol ed, 1911). A digitized text version is available here.

I cannot vouch for the accuracy of the textualizations, where available, as some are Google Books (not OCR) and some are OCR versions. The digitized text of the abridged version is fully available as text and appears to have been carefully proofread.

DCH

Quote:

Originally Posted by Littlejohn

I was interested in viewing the work "A Dictionary of Christian Biography, Literature, Sects and Doctrines," published in 1887 by William Smith and Henry Wace. However, the version offered by http://www.archive.org/stream/adicti...ngoog_djvu.txt is, to say the least, pathetic ... Does anyone know if there are on the WEB digitized versions of the book that they are much better than the one above? ... Thanks!

Littlejohn S

.

Littlejohn · 09-25-2012, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCHindley

There are actually 2 versions.

The original is Wm Smith & Henry Wace, A Dictionary of Christian biography, literature, sects and doctrines during the first eight centuries: being a continuation of 'The dictionary of the Bible' (four volumes with detailed articles on an astonishing range of individuals).

vol 1, A-D, 1877,

vol 2, Eaba - Hermocrates, 1880,

vol 3, Hermogenes - Myensis, 1882,

vol 4, N-Z, 1887

A second abridged version, Henry Wace, A dictionary of Christian biography and literature to the end of the sixth century A.D., with an account of the principal sects and heresies (single volume, 1911) is an abridgment that leaves out a good many authors in the earlier series with Smith. (Wace, Henry) Christian Bio & Lit to 6th Century (abridged 1 vol ed, 1911). A digitized text version is available here.

I cannot vouch for the accuracy of the textualizations, where available, as some are Google Books (not OCR) and some are OCR versions. The digitized text of the abridged version is fully available as text and appears to have been carefully proofread.

DCH

Quote:

Originally Posted by Littlejohn

I was interested in viewing the work "A Dictionary of Christian Biography, Literature, Sects and Doctrines," published in 1887 by William Smith and Henry Wace. However, the version offered by http://www.archive.org/stream/adicti...ngoog_djvu.txt is, to say the least, pathetic ... Does anyone know if there are on the WEB digitized versions of the book that they are much better than the one above? ... Thanks!

Littlejohn S

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Thanks very much, DCHindley!

Greetings

Littlejohn S

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Sheshbazzar · 09-25-2012, 09:50 PM

Garbage in > garbage out.

Littlejohn · 09-26-2012, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Sheshbazzar

Garbage in > garbage out
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Is your brain also of garbage?...Because only a 'garbage brain' can to put together so many baloney like you normally do!

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