John A. Broussard

You are suffering from acute appendecitis. You have a choice of going to a degreed surgeon who has the respect of his colleagues or an undegreed one who is considered to be a charlatan by the American College of Surgeons.

What choice would you make for the operation?

Steven Avery

Actually, when the Medical Establishment recommended radiation for the skin cancer of an elderly relative, we used a "charlatan" herbal remedy, (rather carefully researched) with very nice results. Sometimes the establishment has half-baked itself into non-productive routines, due to a type of mental and social paralysis, incorrect paradigms of thought and research, or institutionalized corruption (as with the drug companies).

However, afaik, my non-vestigial appendix is doing very well, thanks.

Shalom,
Praxeas
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Messianic_Apologetic/

Diogenes the Cynic

Praxeus, Wyatt claimed that he had found the Ark of the Covenant and was keeping it in his basement. Do you believe him?

Getting back to the OP, it's an interesting article that doesn't seem to be associated with any of Wyatt's dog and pony show or even to be arguing that the mountain in question is the "Mount Sinai" of Exodus in any literal, historical sense but that it was a site of cultic worship for a number of different tribes in the 3rd millenium BCE, and that this fact, along with some geographical features which are similar to what is dscribed in Exodus, may indicate that the mountain was used as a model for part of the Moses myth. If there was already a legendary "Mountain of God" known to ancient tribal memory, I suppose it's not a strech for the myth-making process to assign it as the place where Moses received the law.

SwoleMan

Yes, that's what I think to.

But according to the article in "Illustrerad Vetenskap", Anati wants to place the exodus about 1000 years earlier than what most (right?) of today's archaeologists do. It also seems like he's asserting that the Egyptian story of Sinuhe is inspired by Moses's adventures, and not vice versa.

Diogenes the Cynic

Yes, that's where he loses me. He was doing fine until then.

John A. Broussard

That, of course, was not an answer to my question.

Want to try again?

Thanks.

SwoleMan

Do the genealogies in the OT allow the exodus to be placed 1000 years earlier without any "shoehorning" (or even with)?

Vorkosigan

ROFL. As numerous Christian groups have pointed out, Wyatt is 100% fraud. Here are some links:

http://www.tentmaker.org/WAR/

A really in-depth site here:

http://www.isitso.org/guide/wyatt.html

This one is not even worth debating.

Lugubert

A couple of years ago, if I found no error in an article in the Illustrerad vetenskap, I re-read it to find what I overlooked. They're mostly better now, and I still subscribe. Much of the stuff is sufficiently interesting to make me look for facts.

In the Mt. Sinai story, they mention that several claims from "Biblical archeologists" are seen as forgeries by others, citing the James ossuary and the Tell Dan stela, and they hint at the political aspects motivating searches for indications of early Israelites.

Anat

My impression is that Anati is on the boundary between solid academics (a mountain that had been revered since pre-historical times as an inspiration for a later story) and wishful thinking to validate personal beliefs.