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Johnny Skeptic · 01-28-2008, 12:59 PM

Consider the following from the GRD Forum:

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Originally Posted by Will.L

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Almost unanimously, the Jewish Rabbis agreed that when the second temple was destroyed and the diaspora began, that it was because of their immorality and thus God felt that they had broken their side of the agreement. Many Jews (ESPECIALLY orthodox Jews living in Israel) do not recognize the Israeli state as they do not believe the covenant has been reclaimed yet (plus, they weren't supposed to go back until the Messiah came).

Comments please.

Toto · 01-28-2008, 02:16 PM

I'm not sure why this is in BCH. As far as I know, Will.L's statement is correct.

jeffevnz · 01-28-2008, 02:46 PM

There's an old Jewish saying: Ask any two Jews a question and you'll get three different answers. There's a great diversity of opinion on this among all Jews, including the Orthodox.

Unfortunately, regardless of where they stand on the covenant and the modern state of Israel, the overwhelming majority of the Orthodox believe that annexing and ethnically cleansing the West Bank is the right thing to do. Even many of the ones who oppose those policies do so for backhanded reasons, such as wanting to minimize contact with the "unclean" Palestinians.

Johnny Skeptic · 01-28-2008, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Toto

I'm not sure why this is in BCH. As far as I know, Will.L's statement is correct.

I started this thread at this forum because arnoldo's beliefs about the Partition of Palestine are different from many Jew's beliefs about the Partition of Palestine. I was hoping that he would make some posts in this thread.

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01-28-2008, 02:16 PM	#2
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	I'm not sure why this is in BCH. As far as I know, Will.L's statement is correct.

01-28-2008, 02:46 PM	#3
jeffevnz Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Alexandria, VA, USA Posts: 3,370	There's an old Jewish saying: Ask any two Jews a question and you'll get three different answers. There's a great diversity of opinion on this among all Jews, including the Orthodox. Unfortunately, regardless of where they stand on the covenant and the modern state of Israel, the overwhelming majority of the Orthodox believe that annexing and ethnically cleansing the West Bank is the right thing to do. Even many of the ones who oppose those policies do so for backhanded reasons, such as wanting to minimize contact with the "unclean" Palestinians.

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