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TomboyMom · 05-01-2006, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TomboyMom

Can you provide any support for this assertion outside of the Christian bible?

If not, do you accept the assertion of other holy books as true without any outside verification?

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Originally Posted by Richbee

You have brought up two questions best hashed out on two more new threads.

I accept the four independent historical accounts from Matthew, Luke, Mark, and John.

It is pointless to discuss the evidence you're lacking to support a POV from unbelief, or Atheistic nihilism.

I take that as a "no", then?

TomboyMom · 05-01-2006, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Richbee

You have brought up two questions best hashed out on two more new threads.

Actually, you brought them up; I just responded to your posts.

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I accept the four independent historical accounts from Matthew, Luke, Mark, and John.

Well, you accept them, but why should we?
You do realize that the best evidence is that these 4 accounts are not independent, not historical[in the sense of primary or first person documents], and not written by Matthew, Mark, Luke or John?

TomboyMom · 05-01-2006, 10:17 AM

Why do you think Richbee's posts get mod-edited so much? Do you think it's because he's so good at following Christian moral teachings that he finds it difficult to engage in civil discourse?

Richbee · 05-01-2006, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Agenda07

'No evidence outside of the New Testament historical records'? Didn't you start this thread by claiming that your ten points were 'established historical facts'? I'm glad you finally admit that the gospel account is uncollaborated by historical record.

Yet, you have no evidence contradicting the four independent Gospel accounts?

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RUmike · 05-01-2006, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Richbee

Yet, you have no evidence contradicting the four independent Gospel accounts?

The gospel accounts do just a fine job contradicting themselves. No need to bring in external evidence.

Seriously though. All you do is quote some usually outdated "authority" (many times without citing it as someone else). Are you ever going to present your own ideas or opinions? Otherwise, none of us care.

Jon Barleycorn · 05-02-2006, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Richbee

John Kennedy is dead, and one, two or fourteen gumen doesn't really change the basic fact that JFK is DEAD!

Jesus is Risen!

Well, if he's risen - perhaps he could make a post here himself & clear up a few things?:huh:

TomboyMom · 05-02-2006, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Richbee

Yet, you have no evidence contradicting the four independent Gospel accounts?

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That's right, Richbee, outside of the gospel accounts (which, as I say, are not independent), there is no evidence whatsoever for any thing about the life of Jesus. Generally speaking, when doing History, absence of evidence for something tends not to corroborate. That is, outside of the third hand compilations by devotees written decades after the fact, there is no corroboration for the Jesus story.

TomboyMom · 05-02-2006, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Richbee

Yet, you have no evidence contradicting the four independent Gospel accounts?

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btw, do you have any evidence contradicting the Koran?

RED DAVE · 05-02-2006, 09:01 AM

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Dargo · 05-02-2006, 03:57 PM

I don't think you'll find any ancient American historical records which contradict the history of the book of Mormon either.

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