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Chili · 10-15-2008, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Joan of Bark

All the crusades ended up as land grabs. Christian expansion and greed have always gone hand-in-hand ever since the Catholic Corporation was given the land around Rome.

Funny things here is that Catholics are not Christian but are Catholic and at best Christians-in-becoming in accordance to the other Gospel that Paul preached.

Rome is the equivalent of the New Jerusalem in Christendom that must necessalily exist with saints in heaven to show the rest of the world that indeed heaven is a place on earth.

Chili · 10-15-2008, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bacht

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Originally Posted by Joan of Bark

All the crusades ended up as land grabs. Christian expansion and greed have always gone hand-in-hand ever since the Catholic Corporation was given the land around Rome.

That's the key isn't it? Wasn't the Inquisition really about maintaining institutional power rather than religion per se?

I suppose an argument could be made that the Vatican was continuing the tradition of the Roman emperors after Constantine, imposing conformity for the sake of maintaining order. The defensiveness/paranoia of the Dark Ages was no longer appropriate in the High Middle Ages and after.

The Inquisition required an inquisitor first and an effort must be made to keep the wolves [in sheeps clothing] away from the flock, which is their right and obligation for the protection of their flock.

mountainman · 10-15-2008, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chili

Rome is the equivalent of the New Jerusalem in Christendom that must necessalily exist with saints in heaven to show the rest of the world that indeed heaven is a place on earth.

Dear Chili,

You are forgetting the city of Constantine, the New Rome, Constantinople, in which place are buried the thirteen apostles, and the bishop of bishops.

Best wishes,

Pete

Chili · 10-15-2008, 08:00 PM

Perhaps so Pete but in Rome the apostles are riches in heaven that never die. I am not sure why anybody would claim to have them buried if they represent the qualities needed to get to heaven.

Chili · 10-15-2008, 09:42 PM

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But the Church cannot kill the sentenced, due to the principle "Ecclesia abhorret sanguinem" (the Church abhors blood). The local lord, or the king, are given the people sentenced to the stake.

What delicious irony given the gospel story of how the Jewish high priests turned Jesus over to Pilate to do the dirty work.

That is how the Church is above and below the state but never part of it. It is above to guide and direct and below to bury and console. It is modelled after the left and right brain in humans wherein the right brain is the Senate and the left brain the lower house that does the dirty work.

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Chili Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Alberta Posts: 11,885	Perhaps so Pete but in Rome the apostles are riches in heaven that never die. I am not sure why anybody would claim to have them buried if they represent the qualities needed to get to heaven.

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